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Fri 22 Aug, 2003 11:15 am
Truman wrote the Majestic12 policy and the Mayo Treaty [with ETs].
Eisenhower SAW the military industrial complex taking over, but he didn't do anything about it.
Kennedy, when confronted with the Northwoods Doctrine, was appalled and planned to reveal it to the American people. He was assassinated ten days later.
Johnson was a major player in the WAR-for-MONEY game of the 1970, during which time, most capable and intelligent military men were either killed off or subsequently, committed suicide.
Nixon was a power-monger, who toyed with human rights after the manner of China. It was during Nixon's sojourn that Bush Senior was head of the CIA, a position he has never truly relinquished. Bush Senior has been in a position to know what ET/UFO information is true and what is not true, for many decades.
Ford didn't know anything.
Carter didn't know anything that helped him.
Reagan was a puppet for Bush Senior and the CIA. He deregulated industry after industry, so the industrial cabal's good ole boys could ransack and plunder, each one: the savings and loans, the banks, the telephone companies, the airlines, and so forth. In each case, the insiders helped themselves to untold riches that had belonged to real stockholders and real investors.
Bush Senior was the fox guarding the henhouse. He not only did more of the same; he began ransacking the budget and began the open process of war-mongering as official American statecraft policy.
Clinton realized he got his money and power from the Bush Buddy Cabal; Hillary was joined in her Whitewater deal by poppy_bush; so Bill had to keep his mouth shut. They went after him and kept him busy with the Monica thing, and so, nothing really got dealt with.
And now Bush junior--a deserter, dilitante, and party boy is the puppet for his daddy's henchmen.
Now. What part of this story leads you to the conclusion that there are ANY FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS coming up in America's future?
HUH?????
Got some citations to support this? Thanks.
No, just 60 years of ABC and NBC News.
Don't believe me?
What do they teach you kids in school, that passes for history?
I simply related USHistory to you, is all.
The Truman document--Majestic12--is located in hand-typewritten PART at
http://www.abidemiracles.com/432100.htm
Reading that document is a REAL history lesson, that puts a whole BUNCH in perspective, that we NEVER saw or heard "on the news."
Go for it.
chaiyah
That only proves that power corrupts. It has been so since the beginning of time human nature being what it is. You pay's your money and you takes your chances. Constantly crying, rending ones clothes, pulling ones hair out and crying woe is me and especially resurrecting the dead will not change it. The past cannot nor will it be changed we have to worry about today and tomorrow.
The saying goes something like" If we ignore history we are bound to repeat it. Guess what! Ignore or not we will repeat it. "History should have made that quite evident.
With regards to aliens visiting the Earth, I can only repeat what Carl Sagan said "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". I would be delighted to be convinced of intelligent alien life, but so far the evidence isn't there.
I did open the link provided for the Majestic 12 documents. Anybody with a typewriter and 30 free minutes could have produced those. I guess this leads into a different question - How do people decide what evidence to believe? Many people on A2K would have a hard time believing Mr. Bush regardless of the evidence provided, and yet others automatically believe these Majestic 12 documents. I'm baffled.
It's like this Jim; we form an opinion, lord knows how or why, and tend to justify our own rightness. New evidence reinforces those opinions, even if ambiguous. When the directly contradict them, we question the source or the motives of the reporter.
You knew this when you asked the question, didn't you?
Jim said
Quote:"extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence".
while i am inclined to agree, i see a tremendous amount of strongly held beliefs (metaphysics etc) that i could only regard as extraordinary, held by the vast majority with zero evidence.
Indeed, in recent polls (From Scientific American, can't find a URL to post), there was proven to be very little correlation between education and belief in metaphysics, herbal treatments, ETs, and the like.
The only evidence I'd trust is the first-hand kind. I'm rather skeptical about many things, but especially here.
It's too easy to believe in UFOs having visited Earth because (and I speak only for myself here, but I think it applies to others as well) it's something that I want to believe. It would be marvellous if alien species were visiting us from afar.
But then, it's nothing less than necessary to question the things you are most willing to believe.
"First-Hand Evidence"
...So, WHAT IS "first hand evidence" for you--
...your senses -0R-
...your intuition, the "ring of truth" and contact with the Universe?
...If you limit yourself to your senses, how are you different from an animal?
...If you don't seek out evidence for your Intuition, how are you different from the INSANE whose mental life dominates their sensory life?
...If you don't work mind/spirit and body/senses together, how can you ever know anything or prove any judgment "correct" to your satisfaction?
...The people who refuse to learn from history, who refuse to see cause-and-effect at work in corporate and individual decisions, are option for ignorance and haphazard, slapdash decision-making.
...In this society, "personal preferences" and "choices" are stripped of their natural outcomes [provided by history and value systems]. The claimf is made--instead--that each person is FREE each time a decision presents itself, to choose anything or nothing.
...The outcome of this dogma is that people act stupidly, on the spur of the moment.
...They get first hand evidence all right--that of untoward consequences caused by lack of clear thinking.
...If we take our first-hand evidence from the lessons of history, we will not have to repeat history, over-and-over again.
...But, to do that, we must resist the entire flow of our culture at this time.
...Do we have the strength to do this?
...We shall see. The ones who consent to listen and learn from history are the ones who will not perish by the side of the road.
: ) chai
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