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New Jersey is Retarded

 
 
Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 17 Dec, 2007 04:24 pm
dlowan wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
dagmaraka wrote:
This is a list of countries allowing death penalty (infoplease)

Quote:
Afghanistan
Antigua and Barbuda
Bahamas
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Barbados
Belarus
Belize
Botswana
Burundi
Cameroon
Chad
China (People's Republic)
Comoros
Congo (Democratic Republic)
Cuba
Dominica
Egypt
Equatorial Guinea
Eritrea
Ethiopia
Gabon
Ghana
Guatemala
Guinea
Guyana
India
Indonesia
Iran
Iraq
Jamaica
Japan
Jordan
Kazakhstan
Korea, North
Korea, South
Kuwait
Kyrgyzstan
Laos
Lebanon
Lesotho
Libya
Malawi
Malaysia
Mongolia
Nigeria
Oman
Pakistan
Palestinian Authority
Qatar
Rwanda
St. Kitts and Nevis
St. Lucia
St. Vincent and the Grenadines
Saudi Arabia
Sierra Leone
Singapore
Somalia
Sudan
Swaziland
Syria
Taiwan
Tajikistan
Tanzania
Thailand
Trinidad and Tobago
Uganda
United Arab Emirates
United States
Uzbekistan
Vietnam
Yemen
Zambia
Zimbabwe



The rest (majority) of the world, including all of the Western democracies, are as retarded as New Jersey. Only they were retarded for years now.


Yeah, some incentive NOT to kill someone huh? The lack of a death penalty is nothing but feel good politics - and feel good **** is retarded.

Since this is Jersey (and not a city, rabbit), this will only fuel paid mob hits. Pissed off families of victims will not stand for this level of government sponsored do-nothingness.




Next will be enlightened gun control!!!!! Yay!!!!



Laughing


Seems that it's only the gun nuts who want to kill people by whatever means.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Tue 18 Dec, 2007 01:35 am
why stop at boring death penalty?

Let's reintroduce gladiatorial combat!
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dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 18 Dec, 2007 01:45 am
dagmaraka wrote:
why stop at boring death penalty?

Let's reintroduce gladiatorial combat!


Burn them!!!!!
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dadpad
 
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Reply Tue 18 Dec, 2007 01:55 am
dlowan wrote:
dagmaraka wrote:
why stop at boring death penalty?

Let's reintroduce gladiatorial combat!


Burn them!!!!!


Bad day at the office dlowan?
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dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 18 Dec, 2007 03:27 am
dadpad wrote:
dlowan wrote:
dagmaraka wrote:
why stop at boring death penalty?

Let's reintroduce gladiatorial combat!


Burn them!!!!!


Bad day at the office dlowan?


Nope.

Just satire.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Tue 18 Dec, 2007 05:18 am
Burn the saytre!
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 18 Dec, 2007 05:53 am
I heard on a TV newscast the other day that 40 US states do not employ the death penalty, even though it remains on the books. Aside from Texas, few states do many executions.
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 18 Dec, 2007 06:03 am
This increment in the death of state sanctioned killing made me smile. Hopefully, the dominoes will start falling.
It is humiliating that this is still as issue.
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 18 Dec, 2007 06:07 am
I changed my mind about it when South Carolina killed a young retarded black man, who panicked when disovered in mid-robbery-----while letting Susan Smith live. She met all the "criteria" for the death penalty...he met none.

But, it always "feels good" to smoke blacks....

I really believe the death penalty has almost turned into the last vestige of racial genocide.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 18 Dec, 2007 06:55 am
In THEORY, I could support the death penalty in cases like those of Manson, Son of Sam, the Zodiac killer, or Paul Bernardo. Obviously nobody is doing those guys any favors keeping them around until they die of old age in jail cells. The criteria would be:

  • Guilt beyond any doubt whatsoever.
  • Continuing danger to the public should they ever break out or otherwise get loose.
  • Get rid of the present adversarial system of justice and replace it with some sort of inquisitorial system in which the common incentive for all parties was to discover the truth of the matter.


Simply too many ways a death penalty at present could amount to a Mike Nifong having a license to kill people and the basic reality is that in real life, the Bernardos and Mansons are such a small percentage of whatever you're talking about that in real life I could live with letting them rot in prison.

The biggest problem would be finding some sort of an ironclad and foolproof set of criteria for determmmining "guilt beyond any doubt whatsoever". You'd get judges and prosecutors wanting to tell you somebody like Sarah Johnson in Idaho was guilty beyond any and all doubt, while that is simply less than obvious to all observers.

They expected DNA testing to eliminate the prime suspect in felony cases in something like one or two percent of cases and many people were in states of shock when that number came back more like 33 or 35%. That translates into some fabulous number of people sitting around in prisons for stuff they don't know anything at all about since the prime suspect in a felony case usually goes to prison. Moreover, in a state like Texas which executes a hundred people a year or whatever it is, that translates into innocent people being executed on a fairly regular basis.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 18 Dec, 2007 07:04 am
dadpad wrote:
Burn the saytre!


I think you mean satyr.
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engineer
 
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Reply Tue 18 Dec, 2007 07:55 am
cjhsa wrote:
Yeah, some incentive NOT to kill someone huh? The lack of a death penalty is nothing but feel good politics - and feel good **** is retarded.

Since this is Jersey (and not a city, rabbit), this will only fuel paid mob hits. Pissed off families of victims will not stand for this level of government sponsored do-nothingness.


I don't get your argument. It costs more to execute someone than to lock them away for life. If on the off chance, you convict the wrong person, you can undo it and life is prison seems like a harsher penalty than the death penalty. Why does this get you so worked up? As long as justice is served, why the need to pull the trigger?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 18 Dec, 2007 09:13 am
A .22LR cartridge only costs about 2-cents.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Tue 18 Dec, 2007 12:18 pm
Tell be if the following isn't incongruous:

Many people that are anti-abortion are pro-death penalty.
Many people that are pro-abortion are anti-death penalty.

If there's any validity, statistically to the above, then humans may not always be thinking logically about things.

Anyway, I would guess after I'm way dead and buried, science will have a way to literally reprogram brains, so anyone that commits a crime, that today would carry a death penalty (where it was still a penalty), would be reprogrammed to continue living, but with a "debugged" psyche. This might be a better preventive than the death penalty, since many people, who today would commit a murder, might not like the idea of continuing to live, but under a new persona?

Anyway, does this elimination of the death penalty in NJ possibly have anything to do with the thought of mandating flu vaccinations to school children? Like maybe NJ, as a "blue state," is unknowingly making a statement as to who, in the future, may feel comfortable enough to choose to live there. Could this result in maintaining a certain liberal demographic in the state?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 18 Dec, 2007 12:37 pm
It could, unless it's hit by a natural disaster. New Orleans has the first white majority city council in thirty plus years after the "help me" crowd up and left.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Tue 18 Dec, 2007 12:41 pm
dagmaraka wrote:
why stop at boring death penalty?

Let's reintroduce gladiatorial combat!


you must admit.... it would be a lot cheaper to put say george bush in the coliseum with saddam hussein or bin laden and just let them fight to the death....not to mention that the pay for view rights would eliminate the entire national debt....
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Tue 18 Dec, 2007 12:43 pm
cjhsa wrote:
It could, unless it's hit by a natural disaster. New Orleans has the first white majority city council in thirty plus years after the "help me" crowd up and left.


what an interesting statement cj... I've never heard blacks called the help me crowd before... you are quite the clever wordsmith....
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 18 Dec, 2007 12:47 pm
Well bear, they're not returning. Check the NY Times today if you think I'm wrong.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Tue 18 Dec, 2007 12:48 pm
cjhsa wrote:
Well bear, they're not returning. Check the NY Times today if you think I'm wrong.


would you return if you were black and your home was filled with white people like you?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 18 Dec, 2007 12:49 pm
Rolling Eyes
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