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sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2008 02:25 pm
Yep. I agree down the line.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2008 02:31 pm
Bad weather + severe storms throughout much of the U.S. today, I wonder if that will dampen turnout? (Er, no pun intended.)
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2008 02:42 pm
Some last graphs, as markers to compare the actual results against when they come in.. (are they doing better or worse than expected?)

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/357/nyreps2vf7.png
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2008 02:43 pm
sozobe wrote:
Bad weather + severe storms throughout much of the U.S. today, I wonder if that will dampen turnout? (Er, no pun intended.)

Heh. But oh, thats bad.. more turnout = more Obama..
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sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2008 02:46 pm
Right.

<fret>

I'm hoping that the fired-up types won't let a little rain or a tornado stop them (yes, some tornadoes). I haven't seen much about turnout yet one way or another.
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2008 02:53 pm
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1659/njrepswp0.png
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2008 03:08 pm
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6530/careps3nh8.png
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2008 03:10 pm
Say - I dont remember if this was ever raised before - but does anybody know what happens with the Edwards delegates to the convention, who were "voted" in in IA, NH, SC?

I suppose they go to uncommitted? But does that mean they are personally free to choose for whomever they want at the convention?
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2008 03:19 pm
Summarizes early voter turnout in several northern California counties...


http://origin.mercurynews.com/news/ci_8174844
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2008 03:21 pm
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1623/cadems2nt2.png
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sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2008 03:25 pm
Thanks, Butrflynet...

Sure hope that last poll is the way things go. Survey USA seems to be the outlier anyway...
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2008 03:29 pm
nimh wrote:
Say - I dont remember if this was ever raised before - but does anybody know what happens with the Edwards delegates to the convention, who were "voted" in in IA, NH, SC?

I suppose they go to uncommitted? But does that mean they are personally free to choose for whomever they want at the convention?


Quote:
With John Edwards' decision to withdraw from the race without endorsing anyone, the campaign for the Democratic nomination is now down to Obama and Clinton.
"Massachusetts political leaders are picking their favorites," Walsh said. "A lot of us Democrats have a favorite, then 1A. I think most people like both candidates."
Edwards had collected 56 national convention delegates, most of whom will be free to support either Obama or Clinton. But, an immediate impact of his withdrawal will be six additional delegates for Obama, giving him a total of 187, and four more for Clinton, giving her 253.
Edwards won 26 delegates in the Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina contests. Under party rules, 10 of those delegates were dispersed among Obama and Clinton, based on their vote totals in those states. The Edwards campaign will have a say in assigning the remaining 16. Three super delegates had already switched their allegiance from Edwards to Obama before the former senator from North Carolina dropped out of the race.
"[Edwards] could be one of these king or queen makers later on in the convention," Kryzanek said. "I think that's one of the reasons why he hasn't endorsed anyone."

http://www.tauntongazette.com/homepage/x142942153

Verified here with more details:

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/edwards-out.html
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2008 03:29 pm
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6599/nydems2uj5.png
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2008 03:29 pm
nimh wrote:
Say - I dont remember if this was ever raised before - but does anybody know what happens with the Edwards delegates to the convention, who were "voted" in in IA, NH, SC?

I suppose they go to uncommitted? But does that mean they are personally free to choose for whomever they want at the convention?


I think they still go as Edwards delegates but maybe can change their minds at the convention? That's my uneducated guess.
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2008 03:33 pm
Butrflynet wrote:
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Edwards had collected 56 national convention delegates, most of whom will be free to support either Obama or Clinton. But, an immediate impact of his withdrawal will be six additional delegates for Obama, giving him a total of 187, and four more for Clinton, giving her 253.
Edwards won 26 delegates in the Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina contests. Under party rules, 10 of those delegates were dispersed among Obama and Clinton, based on their vote totals in those states. The Edwards campaign will have a say in assigning the remaining 16. Three super delegates had already switched their allegiance from Edwards to Obama before the former senator from North Carolina dropped out of the race.


Thanks Butrflynet, you're an angel!

The Edwards campaign "will have a say" - that sounds a little vague.. wait, I should look at the link first eh? :wink:

Soon as I'm done with the graphs..
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sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2008 03:34 pm
Good weather and good turnout in California -- great.

This concerns me though:

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Santa Clara County officials have projected that 437,250 voters, or 63 percent of those registered to vote, will cast their ballots in the primary - just under two-thirds of them by mail.


That's just one county -- not all of CA -- but still.
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2008 03:37 pm
Not sure which aspect of that sentence is concerning you, Soz. The volume of voters, the percentage of voting registrants, or the volume of vote-by-mail voters.

Can you expound on your concern a bit?
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2008 03:41 pm
sozobe wrote:
Good weather and good turnout in California -- great.

This concerns me though:

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Santa Clara County officials have projected that 437,250 voters, or 63 percent of those registered to vote, will cast their ballots in the primary - just under two-thirds of them by mail.


That's just one county -- not all of CA -- but still.


It is rather telling that the Land of Silicon Valley has such a high majority of people voting with paper-by-mail ballots rather than electronic voting machines.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2008 03:42 pm
The bolded part -- that about 2/3rds of the projected total voters are by mail.

The Field poll put it at a much lower percentage (40-something, I forget the exact number). The Field poll also put the numbers going to Hillary and Obama as roughly equal, and it still could be that since it's just one county vs. the whole state, the Field poll is right. Just a worry. (Mail would tend to favor Hillary since Obama's momentum has been fairly recent.)
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2008 03:49 pm
Ah, didn't notice the bolded part. For some reason, on my monitor, bold text barely has any distinction when used in the quote boxes. Bold text appears properly when not enclosed in the quote boxes.

It is hard to predict what will happen with the votes by mail. It has never been at this volume before.

The fact that there is such a huge number of them being dropped off at polling places today gives me something positive to focus on though.
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