Hey again, there were some things that were driving me nuts, so I had to go back and find some stuff.
In part 23 they show the water and the bikes on a log.
I couldn't stop thinking about the Hobbs guy the first time I watched everything because he was just too calm about the whole thing and thinks all should be forgiven. (Part 13 I believe)
I had to go back and watch him and something about that guy really rubs me the wrong way. He looks like a man who's got some guilt and I also see some fear in him.
I'm watching him closely!
Hey Montana! Glad you joined our discussion.
Hobbs guy? Do you mean Pam Hobb's father? The one that told her she needed to forgive the kids that killed her son?
I am still reading along. I thought Montana meant the step-father?
TTH is right. I meant the husband (step father). He's the first one who mentioned the forgiveness and the father went along with what he was saying.
Apparently Mr (step father) and Mrs Hobbs are serarated now and Mrs Hobbs now believes the 3 men are innocent.
She's upset with her husband because he waited until he picked her up from work that night to tell her that her son was missing and I think she may suspect her husband as well. She's still confused about the whole thing.
Oh ok, thanx for clarifying TTH and Montana. Wasn't there something recently posted about Hobbs' DNA being on one of the tennis shoe laces? And that lace was on one of the other children?
I wish they'd tell more about that. It could be secondary transfer but hey, this case seems so messed up so who knows.
I am just not believing they accepted Jessie Misskelley's confession. The police did not feel that was the actual scene of the murder yet Misskelley said that is where the killings took place. Too many discrepancies.
I'm down with the flu so I'm not reading a whole bunch right now because I can't seem to retain it very well but the more I read the more this sounds like a railroad job to me.
I haven't heard from the water commission on that waterway. If anyone wants I can scan the picture in of where the bikes were found and post it.
Yeah, the shoe laces leading back to Mr. Hobbs is something to seriously consider.
In part 23 they do show the detectives on a log with the boys bikes and they're looking into the water, where I assume the boys were found.
If they were, in fact, in the water, that would explain the lack of blood found, but I still wouldn't rule out that they may have been killed somewhere else and dumped there after.
The water....I thought it was strange that in most of the videos they show no water, but in #23 there is a short glimpse of the logs, water and bikes.
Edit:Arella Mae hope you are feeling better soon.
Arella, I also meant to tell you that I hope your feeling better soon. I feel for ya girl!
TTH, yeah, I found it strange as well that they only showed the water in that one part and I would have missed it if I hadn't gone back to look again.
I did miss the water the first time. Only after you mentioned it Montana that I went back and saw it. It doesn't even say that is where the boys were found.
I know. I am just assuming because the bikes were on the log and they were looking into the water.
This case has me hooked!
Ok I am thoroughly ticked. I have gotten halfway through Jessie's confession in the book. What a railroad job! It is pretty clear to me that the police actually lead him right into a confession taking advantage of his low IQ.
Will say more when I get further in the book.
Oh yeah, I know how that works. It's a dirty system!
Oh, none of that surprises me in the least! They're not just asking nice questions during those interigations. They're emotionally abusing people into confessions by threatening them continuously for hours on end until they finally drive them to confess to stuff just to make them stop.
Sadly, it's been happening forever!
Arella & Montana, it seems to be an article of faith among police and prosecutors that no one ever makes a false confession. That attitude basically makes suspects fair game for any interrogation technique short of torture. The only protection suspects have seems to be the right to ask for a lawyer, but a naive & innocent suspect might well feel that he/she would have nothing to lose by cooperating with police, to their ultimate detriment.
