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Reply Mon 26 Nov, 2007 03:34 am
The nomads lived by hunting and fishing during the last Ice Age which began in / at about 35,000 BC and ended about 10,000 BC.

I think 'in' is correct. Am I right?

Many thanks.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Mon 26 Nov, 2007 04:42 am
Or leave them both out.

The nomads lived by hunting and fishing during the last Ice Age which began about 35,000 BC and ended about 10,000 BC.

A sidenote: the use of BCE Before Current/Common Era has become more common here in the US.

Joe(not without arguments)Nation
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Mon 26 Nov, 2007 04:51 am
Joe Nation wrote:
Or leave them both out.

The nomads lived by hunting and fishing during the last Ice Age which began about 35,000 BC and ended about 10,000 BC.

A sidenote: the use of BCE Before Current/Common Era has become more common here in the US.

Joe(not without arguments)Nation


Hi Joe

The accident happened at about noon.
The accident happened about noon.

I see both the above sentences in print. Isn't it similar to the question I posted.
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contrex
 
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Reply Mon 26 Nov, 2007 04:52 am
Use "in" for specific, known years. To use it for such a thing as the start of an Ice Age is to pretend to an accuracy you cannot achieve.

Napoléon Bonaparte was born in [the year] 1769, and died in [the year] 1821.

If you cannot be precise, because you personally do not know the exact year, or because you are making a general remark, or (as in the case of prehistory) it is unknowable, just use "around".

Motor cars became practical around 1890.

The Iron Age began around 1200 BC in the part of the world which later became India.

Fred, who knows little history, thinks that Queen Victoria died around 1900. (She actually died on the 22nd of January, 1901.)
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Mon 26 Nov, 2007 04:58 am
Hi.

Contrex just explained it very well.

Joe('in about' pulls both ways, 'in'(specific) about (non-specific))Nation
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Mon 26 Nov, 2007 05:10 am
Thanks, Contrex and Joe.
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contrex
 
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Reply Mon 26 Nov, 2007 05:28 am
Quote:
The accident happened at about noon.
The accident happened about noon.


The same thing applies, I assert, to hours of the clock, except that we use "at". "At about" is to be avoided!

I saw Joe around 10 o'clock. (imprecise)

I saw Joe at 10:05 on Monday November 26th in the year 2007.
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Mon 26 Nov, 2007 05:37 am
Thanks, Contrex.
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