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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2007 10:24 am
Loving each other and marrying each other are two totally different things.

Is 'each other' redundant?

Many thanks.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2007 11:01 am
Yes and no. You could leave them both out.

Loving and marrying are two totally different things.

The sentence is a little flat, it needs a little something.

Loving each other and marrying each other are two totally different things.

The 'eachs' provide a little bite, a little extra rhythm.

Joe(Dah-dah da-dah da and DAH-dahda da-dah da) Nation
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2007 11:08 am
Thanks, Joe.
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contrex
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2007 01:03 pm
I am afraid I don't quite agree with Joe, because I think that this sentence

Loving and marrying are two totally different things.

is perfectly good and avoids two kinds of stylistic fault present in the first one, namely wordiness and repetition. It is succinct. On the subject of whether I agree with the sentiment expressed therein, I shall remain silent.

Northern English dialect advice on choosing a wife: "Kissing don't last. Cooking do."
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2007 03:21 pm
Contrex:

That's that the yes and no part.

English can be bare bones.

or

English, and therefore all of it's varying accents, dialects and forms, can be written with fulsome flowing floods, rivers really, of multi-syllabic, thesaurus searched, dictionary selected, meaning loaded or nuanced, words.

I have no idea if that is a quality unique to English.

Joe(I only know a very little Indonesian and a sprinkle or two of Spanish)Nation
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solipsister
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2007 03:29 pm
One might say that "two' is a redundancy.
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contrex
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2007 04:22 pm
solipsister wrote:
One might say that "two' is a redundancy.


Good point.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2007 04:39 pm
Very Happy

Joe(a sprinkling of)Nation
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2007 06:22 pm
Joe Nation wrote:


Joe(I only know a very little Indonesian and a sprinkle or two of Spanish)Nation


Then we'll not likely catch you being 'redundant' in Indonesian and Spanish, eh, Joe? Smile
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2007 09:15 pm
contrex wrote:
I am afraid I don't quite agree with Joe, because I think that this sentence

Loving and marrying are two totally different things.

is perfectly good and avoids two kinds of stylistic fault present in the first one, namely wordiness and repetition. It is succinct. On the subject of whether I agree with the sentiment expressed therein, I shall remain silent.

Northern English dialect advice on choosing a wife: "Kissing don't last. Cooking do."

Hi Contrex

Loving each other and marrying each other are two totally different things.

Your sentence is without the words 'each other'. Does that mean that the phrase in unnecessary?

Many thanks.
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contrex
 
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Reply Fri 23 Nov, 2007 12:43 am
Yoong Liat wrote:
Loving each other and marrying each other are two totally different things.

Your sentence is without the words 'each other'. Does that mean that the phrase in unnecessary?


Yes it does mean that. I thought I (abd others) had made that clear. Not only uneccessary but bordering on undesirable.
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Fri 23 Nov, 2007 04:24 am
Thanks, everyone, for your replies.
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 23 Nov, 2007 09:03 am
contrex wrote:
Yoong Liat wrote:
Loving each other and marrying each other are two totally different things.

Your sentence is without the words 'each other'. Does that mean that the phrase in unnecessary?


Yes it does mean that. I thought I (abd others) had made that clear. Not only uneccessary but bordering on undesirable.


Hardly unnecessary, Contrext. Without 'each other' the discussion is aimed at a general situation. With 'each other', it's more specific. It all depends on what you want to say.

There are examples of redundancy in virtually all language; note in your sentence.

Loving two people and marrying two people are two totally different things.

Are 'two people' also redundant?
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