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FCC Republicans again attempt to weaken media ownership rule

 
 
okie
 
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Reply Sun 25 Nov, 2007 01:49 am
There are a great number of news stories that we can thank Talk Radio for reporting, because otherwise we would have never heard about it, or it would have been so de-emphasized or under reported on the next to last page, or distorted and mis-reported. As Rush likes to point out when he is accused of being biased and not offering equal time, he points out that "he is equal time." I tend to agree with him on that. After listening to "news," I need to hear the other side or a counter-balance.

A good example of the need for a balance was the CNN Democratic debate, which was scripted for Clinton, but was presented as balanced. If I view or hear something biased, I would at least like to hear the source admit to the bias, and all conservative talk show personalities that I know of admit that they present their views from a conservative bias. I can't tell you how many liberals I've heard that claim to be moderates or centrists, and it is nothing but their egotistical claim to being balanced, which is a crock to say the least. That is one of the reasons I don't like NPR. The Fairness Doctrine would bring more of that and worse.

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Though they are all in their 20's, they show a maturity of thought that escapes so many of the intellectually juvenile who frequent this forum.

I would heartily agree with that.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sun 25 Nov, 2007 02:12 am
okie wrote:
There are a great number of news stories that we can thank Talk Radio for reporting, because otherwise we would have never heard about it, or it would have been so de-emphasized or under reported on the next to last page, or distorted and mis-reported. As Rush likes to point out when he is accused of being biased and not offering equal time, he points out that "he is equal time." I tend to agree with him on that. After listening to "news," I need to hear the other side or a counter-balance.

A good example of the need for a balance was the CNN Democratic debate, which was scripted for Clinton, but was presented as balanced. If I view or hear something biased, I would at least like to hear the source admit to the bias, and all conservative talk show personalities that I know of admit that they present their views from a conservative bias. I can't tell you how many liberals I've heard that claim to be moderates or centrists, and it is nothing but their egotistical claim to being balanced, which is a crock to say the least. That is one of the reasons I don't like NPR. The Fairness Doctrine would bring more of that and worse.

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Though they are all in their 20's, they show a maturity of thought that escapes so many of the intellectually juvenile who frequent this forum.

I would heartily agree with that.


It really is immaterial whether or not Conservative Talk-Radio provides a balancing counterweight to the bias of Mainstream Media.

If someone chooses to get all of their information about the world from a single biased source, that is their right. Personally I would advise against it, but that's my intellectual bias.

If Air America had taken off and crushed Rush & Co in the ratings, it is very unlikely that we would be hearing Democrats caterwauling about fairness on the air-waves, and if, in such a scenario, Republicans tried to bring back the Fairness Doctrine, I would find fault with them as well.

I'm feel fairly confident that blatham with contest this next statement, but the airwaves of America are open to all points of view. The Marketplace, not the Government determines whether or not they continuously occupy their space. Only when the government intrudes (Fairness Doctrine) does freedom suffer.

Clearly the dismal failure of Liberal Talk-radio and the crowning achievement of Conservative Talk-radio is not a one for one representation of the political leanings of the American people. If it were, we would have very little to worry about Hilary residing in the White House yet again.

That it is not, only makes the efforts of Liberals to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine that much more (charitably) pathetic, and (reservedly) dangerous.

I share blatham's regard for free speech and a free press. What I don't share is his quaint belief that the political forces which reflect my own sense and opinion are incapable of impinging upon these freedoms.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 25 Nov, 2007 09:56 am
Free speech and a free press are pretty little illusions embraced by self-improving lower-middle-class people who like the sound of their own voice when addressing a bunch of innocents.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 25 Nov, 2007 10:33 am
finn said
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It is an attempt to illustrate how it is absurd to contend the desire and practice of media control belongs to only one side of the US political spectrum.

That would be absurd. It would, of course, be equally absurd to contend that there is corruption in the chinese government but not in the american government. Whether one procedes to engage in further study so as to make accurate distinctions would likely be a function of time, interest, and certain presumptions regarding what is true or certain preferences for one 'reality' over another.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 25 Nov, 2007 10:41 am
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
blatham wrote:
finn said
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Comparing the current US administration to the former USSR and the current China is pretty ridiculous and herein lies my complaint with your rhetoric.


I didn't compare them. It is an 'if X, then Y' argument using a real example to demonstrate the connection. If media control is effectively narrowed down in the direction of a single control point, to that degree liberty will be diminished. All authoritarian systems function this way and where information is so controlled (remember, it isn't on/off or black/white, it is degrees) there you have an authoritarian system. Five corporations now own the major media in the US. Would you wish it to consolidate down to three or two or one? Why not?


The title of this thread is FCC Republicans again attempt to weaken media ownership rule (emphasis added)

You begin your post explaining how the dastardly bastard who is engineering this diabolical plot is A REPUBLICAN, and has numerous ties (even through marriage for Heaven's sake!) to the Evil Bush/Cheney Empire.

SIDEBAR: You make much of Martin's connections to Weily, Rein & Fielding. This firm, as are all large law firms, highly cognizant of politics. That they operate in Washington DC makes their interest and consideration all the more intense. Weily Rein does tend to represent clients associated with the Right (Business for one), but I would like to think there is no inherent evil in this tendency as, surely, the Right is as entitled to legal representation as the Left. Weily Rein is no more or less sinister than the Frederick H. Graefe firm , Piper Rudnick and any number of Democrat focused lobbyists in DC.

Then (after some interesting exchanges with george) you respond to my challenge that you seem only to perceive bogeymen when they associate themselves with the Right with "It's not a left/right matter, in the normal or cliched sense of those worlds. There was Pravda in the USSR, and China will have its main information organs"

Not..."Yes, FDR, JFK, Lyndon Johnson, Bill Clinton et al did much the same," but evoking the Soviet Union and Maoist China as the counterpoint to Bush, Cheney, Martin, Martin's wife, and Weily Rein & Fielding.

But I guess you're right.


It is a very simple point. Authoritarian or authoritarian-leaning systems do, and they always do, seek to control information, particularly political opinion and speech. Whether that system is socialist or fascist (left or right, as we normally use those terms) is irrelevant, historically and logically.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Sun 25 Nov, 2007 01:05 pm
They why do you advocate the continuation of such authoritarian measures to control information and speech here?

Shall I presume you wish to label yourself as an authoritarian of the left?
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 25 Nov, 2007 01:36 pm
All lefties are authoritarian George. It's because the facts of life are conservative.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Sun 25 Nov, 2007 03:09 pm
blatham wrote:
I would imagine the same thing, joe. But regulation of human or corporate behavior isn't occasioned only by some worst and certain extremity. It is unlikely that a natural gas tanker will run through that intersection below my window and explode on contact with a bus loaded to the gunnels with stradivarius violins and gifted catholic virgins but still we find reason for traffic regulations.

Indeed we do, but then we also don't make those regulations so stringent that they pose an undue burden on other interests. We may want to enact traffic regulations to promote safety, but we no longer mandate 20 mph speed limits on the highways or require vehicles to sound a bell in order not to startle the horses. The rules, in other words, must take into account the relevant circumstances, and they must change when the circumstances change.

Cross-ownership restrictions may have made some sense in a day and age when newspapers and broadcast television were the main avenues of information, but those days are past. Newspaper readership is in an irreversible decline, and the share of the public watching broadcast television is not much better. The multiplicity of voices now available even to the most unsophisticated media consumer is overwhelming. The competition for your local newspaper isn't the city's other newspaper (there usually isn't one anyway): it's cable news, national papers like the New York Times or USA Today, broadcast and satellite radio, and the internet. Why retain cross-ownership rules when all they do is prevent a dying industry from investing in a moribund one? We might as well prevent newspapers from owning telegraph companies and semaphore relay stations while we're at it.

blatham wrote:
]It is a good thing to have the choice of either Corn Flakes or Oregano Sugar Stars for breakfast and to be able to purchase them at a relatively low price as set by open competition. But I don't think we'd want to say that meaningful democracy is dependent upon that situation. It is dependent upon a free and independent and varied media spectrum and upon the fact of a multiplicity of political viewpoints expressed and received/considered however.

And cross-ownership prohibitions do very little to encourage that multiplicity of viewpoints. With those prohibitions in place, we still saw the major media outlets (with the exception of the Knight-Ridder newspapers -- a chain operation) march lockstep with the White House into an ill-conceived war. If cross-ownership restrictions were supposed to increase the multiplicity of viewpoints they didn't do their job then and they're not doing they're job now.

blatham wrote:
But I consider it likely to the point of certainty that Martin, as a typical Bush administration political appointee, is in his position to forward industry interests, citizen interests being mostly impedimentary. Powell, Martin's predecessor, is now making the big dollars working for the media industry. He ain't a consumer advocate.

The consumer is ill-served by the media now, even with cross-ownership rules in place. Things won't change with those restrictions lifted. Indeed, cross-ownership rules are largely irrelevant to the interests they're designed to serve.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 25 Nov, 2007 05:20 pm
georgeob1 wrote:
They why do you advocate the continuation of such authoritarian measures to control information and speech here?

Shall I presume you wish to label yourself as an authoritarian of the left?


george
What is the function of anti-trust law? Is it to shut down or minimize diversity and choice, or rather, to facilitate it? Do anti-trust laws tend to achieve that goal of furthering choice? Does your support of anti-trust legislation make you an authoritarian of any persuasion?
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Sun 25 Nov, 2007 05:59 pm
We may have finally hit on the central legal aspect of this issue.

The function of the FCC is not to administer anti trust law. It is instead to regulate the issuance of licenses to broadcast media. The fairness and ownership regulations that grew up with the FCC were designed in recognition of the fact that, at the time, some regulation of this (then, before HD radio) very limited spectral resource was a practical necessity, and that some rules to limit the government's behavior in inadverdantly biasing the content of or creating local monopolies on public media were needed to accomplish that regulation in a beneficial way.

The explosive growth of other unregulated media, notably including the internet, internet "radio", cable "radio" and TV, as well as the huge increase in the the available radio spectrum with HD radio broadcast, have profoundly altered the conditions that obtained when these now archaic regulations were created. Joe from Chicago has described these changes very well.

The Justice Department remains in charge of the enforcement of Anti Trust law, and the very large body of case law that has evolved with it. In no other aspect of our economy or society is Anti trust law made and enforced by an administrative agency such as the FCC. We have laws and courts, with the attendant appeal process to deal with these matters.

All this is a good example of the mindless rigidity of government. Bureaucracies, Agencies and rules tend to remain in place long after the reasons for them have passed from the scene. In this case Democrats are trying to extend the life of now pointless restrictons to liberty merely to silence some of their rather effective political critics. This is a clear attempt to abridge free speech for political purposes. It is merely hidden behind a lot of irrelevant rhetoric about non-existant monopolies.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 25 Nov, 2007 06:10 pm
Bernie wrote-

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What is the function of anti-trust law?


Can you not ask anything more difficult than that?

The answer's obvious. Only weavers of the wind would think otherwise.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 25 Nov, 2007 06:15 pm
joe said
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We might as well prevent newspapers from owning telegraph companies and semaphore relay stations while we're at it.


That's a lovely analogy.

You make two arguments here which I cannot contest in any meaningful way until I learn a bit more... whether these entities are really at risk from the changing media landscape (my understanding is that profit margins for papers remain high relative to other business enterprises) and whether the sorts of regulations I would have placed on that landscape would achieve what I would hope. There's no question we are being poorly served by the existing media system, as you say. But I certainly wouldn't want it to get even worse. I find myself turning increasingly to a growing community of bloggers who stand outside the symbiotic world of politicians, pundits, and related corporations. Still, there is the very real issue of the huge imbalance between the percentage of homes that get NBC and the percentage that get Talking Points Memo.

Let me study a bit more and I'll get back to you.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 25 Nov, 2007 06:24 pm
Bernie wrote-

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There's no question we are being poorly served by the existing media system.


Do you mean "served" in the traditionally bucolic sense of the word. If so I'm well satisfied with the existing media system and look forward to it getting better which I feel quite sure it will.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 25 Nov, 2007 06:27 pm
Bernie wrote-

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I find myself turning increasingly to a growing community of bloggers who stand outside the symbiotic world of politicians, pundits, and related corporations.


The amateurs I presume you mean.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 28 Nov, 2007 10:26 am
FCC Chair Forced to Compromise on Cable Regulation
FCC Chair Forced to Compromise on Cable Regulation
By Frank Ahrens
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, November 28, 2007; D01

The Federal Communications Commissions voted for a set of watered-down cable regulations late last night, as increasing tensions among the agency's five members allowed the industry to largely avoid tough rules.

Under the new regulations, cable companies will for the first time have to give the FCC the most complete data available on how many subscribers they have. The FCC also lowered the price that cable systems charge smaller programmers, such as religious community broadcasters, to lease space on unused cable channels.

Yesterday's meeting followed a flurry of late-night activity Monday and throughout the day Tuesday, as commissioners sparred with embattled FCC Chairman Kevin J. Martin, who they say has rushed the commission toward unmerited action on cable and other issues.

The fight over new cable regulations was so contentious that yesterday's meeting began 12 hours after its scheduled start, as Martin and the four other commissioners edited and re-edited the proposals, and concluded after 11 p.m.

Martin is taking heat from the cable industry as well, which accuses him of unfairly trying to crack down. The industry says Martin is attempting regulatory maneuvers designed to achieve his ultimate goal: requiring cable companies to offer their channels on an a la carte basis, allowing subscribers to buy only the channels they want.

Martin has said consumers should not have to pay for channels they may find objectionable, such as MTV or FX. The cable industry says that adopting an a la carte system would actually raise prices and limit selection by forcing a number of lesser-watched channels off the air.

Leading up to last night's meeting, Martin fought with the cable industry and some commissioners over a new study he championed that suggests that more than 70 percent of Americans who can subscribe to large cable packages do so, opening the door for long-dormant federal regulations designed to keep cable companies from growing too big.

If it were determined that the 70 percent threshold has been met, the cable industry could face a raft of regulations, including a national ownership cap.

But after days of struggle, Martin capitulated last night and acknowledged that the new study may not be definitive enough to trigger new regulations. Instead, he and the four other commissioners compromised on a measure that would require the cable industry to provide more detailed information than it currently does on its number of subscribers.

"I think it's important that the commission is taking steps not only to try to provide the opportunity for diverse programmers to get on cable but also to make sure we're gathering the most accurate and reliable data to determine what conditions exist in the video industry today," Martin said in an interview last night.

Increasing tensions within the five-member commission boiled over leading up to last night's vote. Martin received the harshest criticism from fellow Republican commissioner Robert M. McDowell and Democrat Jonathan S. Adelstein.

Both said they were prevented from seeing the FCC's data on cable subscribers until they asked Martin's office for the data Monday night. They showed that only 54 percent of U.S. households that can get cable subscribe to large packages -- a number well below the 70 percent threshold required for new regulations.

"They're trying to hide the ball from their own team," Adelstein said in an interview last night. "That's why the data was suppressed -- because it conflicted with the outcome he sought."

Adelstein accused Martin's office of trying to "cook the books" to arrive at the 70 percent threshold.

McDowell called Martin's study "the only fig leaf that could be found to trigger an avalanche of unnecessary regulation" on the cable industry.

Last night, Martin said that nothing was suppressed and that he was trying to give fellow commissioners the most accurate data.

"We applaud the leadership of each commissioner who questioned and withstood the attempt to use incomplete data in order to justify greater regulation that is completely unwarranted by the competitive marketplace," said Kyle McSlarrow, president of the National Cable & Telecommunications Association, the trade group of big cable companies.

The messy fight over cable has caused some to question Martin's leadership of the FCC.

Last week, Rep. John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.) sent a letter to Martin questioning his management style and asking how much time he had given the public to comment on certain issues and given fellow commissioners to study them.

"To maintain public confidence in the working of administrative agencies, it is critical that the agency decision-making process is transparent and open to public review and comment," Conyers wrote to Martin. "Yet recent media reports suggest that under your chairmanship, the FCC is conducting its decision-making in just the opposite manner."

An FCC official, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of continued dealings with Martin, said: "We are getting a growing number of questions from the Hill asking about commission processes. There are a lot of legitimate concerns and problems."
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 2 Dec, 2007 11:10 pm
Interview with Michael Copps on the Martin proposal...
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/12/03/media_consolidation/index.html
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Stradee
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 10:40 am
Excellent interview!

The Senate Commerce Committee Tuesday unanimously passed a bill to block a Federal Communications Commission vote Dec. 18 on loosening its ban on newspaper-broadcast cross-ownership

"A diverse and competitive media is essential for America's democracy," stated Bob Edgar, President of Common Cause. "Not only is greater consolidation of the media bad for America, but a process that would allow it without giving the public enough time to comment on it is not how our democracy is supposed to work. I commend the members of the Senate Commerce Committee on unanimously supporting a bill to rein the FCC in. Now, we urge the full Senate to adopt this bill."
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 8 Dec, 2007 07:37 pm
Great. Thanks stradee, I hadn't heard that news.

Here's an interesting bit from an interview with Dan Bartlett here
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The fundamental change in the way people consume the news had to change the way we executed a communications strategy at the White House.

Q. How much attention did you pay to the programs on cable?

I never worried about a certain cable show. What I was looking for were trends that were shaping the narrative and the conventional wisdom and whether we had to be in front of or behind those things.

Q. What about the blogs?

We had to set up a whole new apparatus to deal with the challenges they pose. Are they real journalists? The Washington Post, for example, has journalists who are now bloggers. Do you treat them as bloggers? Do they get credentials?

Q. Let's think of it as a practical matter. If one of those journalists-turned-bloggers, Chris Cillizza, e-mails you to say he needs an interview, and at the same time one of the Post's print reporters-say, Dan Balz-e-mails you and says he needs an interview, and you can do only one . . .

Balz.

Q. Because the print edition of the Post has more of an impact?

Because Balz is on multiple platforms. He's booked more easily on television. He's read by more people. He influences people a bit more.
Now, the question might not be as much Chris versus Dan as maybe, "Is it Dan Balz or one of the guys at [the conservative blog] Power Line?"

Q. Yeah, or what if [conservative blogger] Hugh Hewitt called?

That's when you start going, "Hmm . . ." Because they do reach people who are influential.

Q. Well, they reach the president's base.

That's what I mean by influential. I mean, talk about a direct IV into the vein of your support. It's a very efficient way to communicate. They regurgitate exactly and put up on their blogs what you said to them. It is something that we've cultivated and have really tried to put quite a bit of focus on.


"Multiple platforms"...a structural advantage made increasingly easy with concentration of ownership, particularly where ownership has broad commercial or political/commercial interests.
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Stradee
 
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Reply Sat 8 Dec, 2007 08:20 pm
"Multiple platforms"...a structural advantage made increasingly easy with concentration of ownership, particularly where ownership has commercial or political/commercial interests.

Bernie, they all have political/commercial interests! However, 43% of ownership is way to high imo, giving them over 50% - forget any sort of media balance. That and the fact Martin believed he could change the rules indiscriminately - and financial institutions lending billions at a moments notice, etc. Congress will step in, but we haven't seen the last of conservative control tactics.
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 10 Dec, 2007 10:34 am
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Criticism of the FCC's chairman is widely aired

'Lone operator' is said to keep plans from colleagues and manage the agency ineffectively.

By Jim Puzzanghera, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
December 10, 2007
WASHINGTON -- The Federal Communications Commission's monthly meetings are scheduled to start at 9:30 a.m. Under Chairman Kevin J. Martin, the trains don't always run on time, and recently they've come close to veering off the rails.

On Nov. 27, for instance, the FCC was slated to consider controversial proposals dealing with potential new cable TV regulations and increasing women and minority ownership of broadcast stations. Journalists, lobbyists and spectators waited as the five commissioners on the fractious panel wrangled over the issues eight floors above. When they finally showed up for the public session -- nearly 12 hours late -- the few spectators remaining had front-row seats for the sniping and accusations that are threatening to become hallmarks of FCC meetings.

Critics usually blame Martin, a soft-spoken Republican known as a political tactician who has accomplished the rare feat of being criticized by all four of his fellow commissioners. He is also facing a congressional inquiry into the FCC's procedures and allegations of flawed research studies, suppressing data, ignoring public input and holding hearings with minimal notice.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-fcc10dec10,0,3650260.story?coll=la-home-business
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