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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2007 02:47 am
"Nobody (else) in her school is as tall as she."

Is 'else' necessary?

Many thanks.
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Doowop
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2007 02:52 am
No, but I would say that "She is the tallest in her school" looks and sounds better.
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2007 03:03 am
Thanks, Doowop
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contrex
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2007 02:38 pm
I like the original sentence better; it is a little old-fashioned, certainly, but it has a certain elegance.
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Fri 9 Nov, 2007 11:43 am
Hi Contrex

Is 'else' necessary?

Many thanks.
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contrex
 
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Reply Fri 9 Nov, 2007 12:52 pm
No, Yoong Liat, "else" is definitely not necessary at all. It is optional, and as it does not do any useful work in the sentence, may usefully be omitted.
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Fri 9 Nov, 2007 09:10 pm
Hi Contrex

I would like to know which of the following sentences is correct. I would be grateful If you could provide me with explanation why. I feel the second sentence is correct?

Tomorrow being a public holiday, I don't have to work.
It being being a public holiday tomorrow, I don't have to work.

Many thanks.
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contrex
 
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Reply Sat 10 Nov, 2007 02:05 am
Both sentences are acceptable in everyday English. I do not quite see how to explain why they are so. If one of them were not, I could explain that, of course!. The "it being" construction is rather informal and conversational. To be avoided by those aspiring to elegance in writing or speech.

Many of your "which one of these is correct?" questions seem to be answered thus - that one of the examples is more formal and the other more casual and conversational.

PS On here is OK, but never do this in anything approaching formal situations...

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I feel the second sentence is correct?


(End a statement with a question mark. If you want to ask a question, write a question e.g. "I feel the second sentence is correct. Am I right?")
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Sat 10 Nov, 2007 09:11 am
Thanks, Contrex.

The question mark was inadvertently typed in. Thanks, anyway.

All the best.
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contrex
 
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Reply Sat 10 Nov, 2007 01:03 pm
You may well see in an informal note things like this

"I'll meet you at three o'clock?"

"You'll feed the cat?"

Which, if said, would have the rising inflection which denotes a question
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McTag
 
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Reply Sat 10 Nov, 2007 02:07 pm
contrex wrote:
No, Yoong Liat, "else" is definitely not necessary at all. It is optional, and as it does not do any useful work in the sentence, may usefully be omitted.


I beg to disagree here; I would put it stronger.

"Nobody else at her school is as tall as she" sounds wrong to me. It means that she is as tall as she, which is a nonsense, although logically correct.

I agree of course that the word should be left out, in this case.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sat 10 Nov, 2007 04:25 pm
Darn, I thought this thread was going to be about me. It's about something else.
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Sun 11 Nov, 2007 09:43 am
contrex wrote:
You may well see in an informal note things like this

"I'll meet you at three o'clock?"

"You'll feed the cat?"

Which, if said, would have the rising inflection which denotes a question


The second sentence, I suppose.
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