What the Hell? Give me your money not your vote.

Re: What the Hell? Give me your money not your vote.

Be happy that you're not allowed to vote in federal elections. That means that you can't be complicit.

That photo really brings back the memories, joe. I was working as a grip when that documentary was made. It took days of patient instruction before Harrison had Peter Boyle playing the ragga just right.

The bad part is electronic voting machines have made "write in" voting very difficult. Poor Mickey Mouse.... he used to get quite a number of consistent votes back in the "old days".

Halfback

I find it odd that you would be angry over a politician finally interested in including the VI in the election process.

http://www.onepaper.com/stcroixvi/?v=d&i=&s=News:Local&p=1201843343

Barack Obama Will Bring Presidential Campaign to St. Thomas
by Source staff


Oct. 23, 2007 -- Presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama will be the guest of honor at a big-ticket event Nov. 5 at the Ritz-Carlton on St. Thomas.
Organizers say the visit is not only a campaign fund raiser but also a demonstration of the candidate's interest in the region.
"This event has been planned for a long time," said V.I. Democratic State Chair Cecil Benjamin, one of the organizers of the visit. "Obama is interested in our problems, and this is a way for him to show he is interested."
The visit is a collaboration between Puerto Rico Democratic State Chair Roberto Pratts and the Virgin Islands, Benjamin said. Obama will spend some time in the territory before going to Puerto Rico.
Presidential candidates "can no longer ignore the Caribbean," Benjamin said, and both Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands may be poised "for the first time to be part of American politics." With its population of approximately four million, Puerto Rico is an important player in the presidential nomination, he said.
The reception starts at 8 a.m. Nov. 5 at the Ritz-Carlton, St. Thomas. RSVPs are required. A donation of $2,300 will make the donor a "Friend of Obama for America," while $1,000 will make the donor a "Guest of Obama for America." The total an individual can contribute per presidential election is $2,300.
The local host committee includes Michael Bornn, Amos Carty, Julie Cassinelli and Sebastiano Paiewonsky Cassinelli, Josefina and Ricardo Charaf, Tom Crane, Marjorie Roberts and Daryl Dodson, Carol Nicholson Fulp and Bernard Fulp, Waring Partridge and Catherine York.

I find it odd that you think that I am angry about his fundraiser. It would be nice to have a vote in a presidential election. I do think that it is odd to campaign in an area without a vote. I also was curious as to other peoples thoughts. I appreciate yours.

Be grateful for small blessings Island Girl. Hawaii was given statehood much to the dismay of the rightful owners, the Hawaii people, and subsequently turned Oahu into a nuclear munititons dump.

If for reason there is a major nuclear accident there goes the Pacific Rim. It isn't called the Rim of Fire for naught. This is only one of many reasons we shouldn't be there

I am an activist and firmly convinced that Hawaii should be returned to its people.

I'm not looking for a political debate, just stating the facts.

The quandry is how to correct the destruction brought to the Sandwich Island by missionaries who destroyed the Hawaiian lifestyle and opened the doors to explotation by American business interests.

Frankly, the only difference here is that Hawaii is a state, VI is not .

Buuuuuuut, that is 4 million votes if congress can figure out how to give the Carribean constituancy the vote without giving them statehood.

Would this require a constitutional ammendment, which would take a long time, or is there is another way. Or can congress pass a resolution impowering the people of PR & VI.

Gotta be something afoot.

Sglass, or in my mind I refer to you as Sea Glass, one of the most precious of our over used society returned in the form of a gem.

I'm not familiar with the destruction that you have described to me in Hawaii. But if you are an activist, you have another listener. I do hear what you are saying, and if true, very scary. I haven't had time to researdh myself, but will soon out of respect.

Sglass:

For correctness purposes only... the Pacific Rim, as an economical term, refers to those Countries starting with New Zealand and working clockwise to the Koreas and Russia on the Bearing Straight.

For geographical purposes, I suppose the term could also be extended to include the US West Coast, Alaska, Western Canada and Mexico and all the Central and South American Countries bordering the Pacific.

Hawaii is hardly on the "Rim", either way you look at it.

Hawaii was given the chance to become a State and they took the offer. Puerto Rico has been made the offer in the past and has preferred to remain the way they are.

I am uncertain about the Virgin Islands.

Halfback

Half Back,

I would like to bring to your attention that Hawaii, the Sandwich Islands, are indeed included as part of the Pacific Rim. My reference was geological.

I thought that I made it clear in my post that I am not interested in getting involved in trite political dialogs.

Sg

It is not political.... Hawaii is not the RIM... possibly the hub, but assuredly not the rim.

I read your initial disclaimer..... me read good! :wink:

Halfback

I checked it out. I stand corrected...... Hawaii is, indeed, considered part of the Pacific Rim group of entities. Who wouldda guessed?

My humblest apologies for calling you out on it. My bad!

Halfback

That sounds like a great story. I only wish I knew what you were talking about. My avatar picture (special for Halloween) is a publicity still from Son of Frankenstein, with Boris Karloff and Bela Lugosi.

It struck me, though not you, that Lugosi in this photo looks the spitting image of George Harrison. A 'raga' (I misspelled it) is a Hindi musical structure/form (as in Harrison's sitar stuff). And Peter Boyle played Frankenstein in the Wilder film.

Boy, the joke is even funnier now.

Island Girl,

As an introduction to Hawaii in general I would suggest James Mitchner's Hawaii.

There are historical inaccuracies, but all in all a very good read.

Sg

Here's a graphic representation that depicts my reaction to your initial post:

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My head

You need to put some subtle hints in your posts that warn the clue-deprived among us that you are making a joke. Perhaps adding "nyuck nyuck nyuck" as a postscript. That would be a big help.

Well, joe...the other option is further education such that your head isn't down there. What is "nyuck" in the latin?

Island Girl,

Looks like you got your political thread hi-jacked by the "Good Old Boy Network" :wink:

Sg

Guilty as charged.

I'm afraid it isn't news for a dominating and resource-extracting political/economic/military power to take effective ownership and control of an external territory and then treating the people there like kitchen staff.