Bush will veto children's health bill in House

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Bush will veto children's health bill in House

Thu Oct 25, 2007

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush will veto legislation being considered by the U.S. House of Representatives on children's health insurance if significant changes are not made, the White House said on Thursday.

Bush vetoed earlier legislation on the issue, which has become a point of contention with congressional Democrats, and will veto the current bill as well because it has not meaningfully addressed earlier objections, the White House said.

"The president will veto this legislation if it is presented to him without significant changes," a statement from the White House Office of Management and Budget said.

Reuters

"Hey, I gotta pay for those new stealth fighters for Israel, dammit!" -- Bush

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Hi Zippo,
You can probably guess that I agree with his veto Very Happy

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TTH wrote:

Hi Zippo,
You can probably guess that I agree with his veto

Another child hater.

Why do you hate children Laughing

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Cycloptichorn

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I don't hate kids. Hey, why don't you find out about that kid those dems used in the commercial relating to this veto Laughing

Poor kid my ### Rolling Eyes

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TTH wrote:

I don't hate kids. Hey, why don't you find out about that kid those dems used in the commercial relating to this veto
Poor kid my ###

You don't know what the f*ck you are talking about.

This topic has already been beat to death by people who are better versed in politics then you are, so my suggestion to you would be to drop it while you are only slightly behind, before the embarrassment begins.

Cycloptichorn

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http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/08/graeme-frost-and-the-perils-of-democrat-poster-child-abuse/

You seem to have an attitude problem. BTW, don't tell me what to do.

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TTH wrote:

http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/08/graeme-frost-and-the-perils-of-democrat-poster-child-abuse/

You seem to have an attitude problem. BTW, don't tell me what to do.

No, I really think you should stop. Really. Malkin got embarrassed on this subject - she stuck her neck out too far and got burned for it. I guess you didn't read any of the follow up to the asinine post you linked to, in which pretty much every contention she makes is found out to be false.

If you insist on keeping it up, I'll go into detail about just how little she - and by virtue of your sheep-like behavior, you - f*cking know about this subject.

Cycloptichorn

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Didn't I already tell you NOT to tell me what to do? Are you dense? Maybe that $500.00 spent on that school should be spent on health care.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/10/washington/10memo.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
Oh yeah, they own a house valued at $260,000 and commercial property worth $160,000. I really feel bad for them.

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Sigh.

They bought the house for 55k in the early 90's, and it's located pretty much in the ghetto. The fact that their home is worth more then it used to be doesn't translate to money in their pocket.

The commercial property doesn't earn them money either - they pay on the mortgage for that as well; it's for the husband's business.

I'm really only offering you advice, TTH, as you don't seem like a bad person - but you are making a fool out of yourself by bringing up a subject which has already been discredited thoroughly.

As I said earlier - you don't know what you are talking about, and instead rely upon other people's crappy analysis to form your opinions, never reading any of the side of the story that doesn't come from right-wing foaming mouthpieces.

As this is typical of your discourse in the politics forum, I am not particularly surprised.

Cycloptichorn

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Well, at least you made a post where you don't swear or throw insults around. So, where do you get your information to form your opinion and why is that information any better?

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TTH wrote:

Well, at least you made a post where you don't swear or throw insults around. So, where do you get your information to form your opinion and why is that information any better?

In this case, the information is better b/c it isn't formulated by a nutty bitch like Malkin; she confuses being a stalker for being a 'citizen journalist.'

You can't make snap judgments of a family's situation by peering in the windows of their life and expect them to be accurate.

I formulate my opinions by obtaining information from a wide variety of sources and integrating that into a hopefully cohesive understanding of the situation.

In this case, Malkin jumped to the conclusion that this family didn't deserve public funding, and a bunch of other Conservatives jumped on the bandwagon and decided that people who have any sort of assets at all should be forced to liquidate every asset they have before receiving any help at all. A foolish conclusion and one that she and the Conservatives in question regret.

Cycloptichorn

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I agree someone shouldn't have to liquidate all their assets just to have health care. I do however believe that if someone is going to have kids they should be able to afford them. Maybe those parents should work 2 jobs then. No one paid my medical bills for me. I worked 2 jobs to pay them.

Just to let you know, I am in favor of everyone in the USA being able to have health care coverage.

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TTH wrote:

I agree someone shouldn't have to liquidate all their assets just to have health care. I do however believe that if someone is going to have kids they should be able to afford them. Maybe those parents should work 2 jobs then. No one paid my medical bills for me. I worked 2 jobs to pay them.

Just to let you know, I am in favor of everyone in the USA being able to have health care coverage.

You worked two jobs while raising 4 kids? Impressive.

Nobody is paying for the parents either. But the kids - if you worked 2 jobs to keep your head up, and you had kids, they would be covered too.

Are you pro-choice? Sometimes, you don't choose to have kids. I am personally pro-choice, but many Republicans aren't. So the family has 3 kids, the wife get's pregnant, they know it's going to be expensive - but you can't have an abortion? That's the government line, and it's not an adequate solution for our families.

I honestly think that a single-payer health care system in America would be cheaper then what we currently have. The Negative Nancies who talk against it always fail to bring up the massive, massive amounts of waste in the current system - preferring to focus on the potential for waste in the new system. So I agree that everyone should have access to some form of health care.

Cycloptichorn

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Cycloptichorn wrote:

I honestly think that a single-payer health care system in America would be cheaper then what we currently have. The Negative Nancies who talk against it always fail to bring up the massive, massive amounts of waste in the current system - preferring to focus on the potential for waste in the new system. So I agree that everyone should have access to some form of health care.

Cycloptichorn

I agree with you.

I worked 2 jobs when I was single to pay my medical bills. I am pro-choice btw.

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TTH wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/10/washington/10memo.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
Oh yeah, they own a house valued at $260,000 and commercial property worth $160,000. I really feel bad for them.

I feel bad for you. You don't seem to understand the first thing about money.

A house valued at $260,000 does not equate to the owner having access to $260,000 nor does it even equate to the owner having a net worth of $260,000. Do you know what a mortgage is? Do you understand that a person's net worth is their assets minus their debts? It seems Michele Malkin doesn't know the first thing about buying a house or any other property in the real world. Do you really want to be there with her? A $260,000 home in the city where those people live is worth less than the median home price. This is NOT some mansion. It is a working class home.

They first bought the house for $55,000 with a mortgage. They then were forced to do major renovations after the accident. Do you know what a home equity loan is? You know TTH maybe you should stop and think about the reality of how people live before you attack them because you feel the .000002 cents of your money that goes to help them is too much. By the way. They just announced yesterday that the war in Iraq is going to cost every person in the US $8000. I can think of a lot of things I would have rather spent that money on.

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A new 4BR/3BA house costs about $350K in the worst of markets. $125/sf is hardly high for today's construction costs.

Same house in a high demand area costs $1.2M or more. Who's fooling who with these assenine numbers?

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cjhsa wrote:

A new 4BR/3BA house costs about $350K in the worst of markets. $125/sf is hardly high for today's construction costs.

Same house in a high demand area costs $1.2M or more. Who's fooling who with these assenine numbers?

Who is fooling who?

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$59,000
5 Bed, 3 Bath
0.13 Acres BALTIMORE, MD 21215
IMAGINE YOUR DREAM HOME ENTER THE FOYER WALK INTO YOUR LIVINGROOM W/FP. FORMAL DININGROOM WITH INFORMAL DINING AREA LIBRARY OR BDRM W/BTH.

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$94,000
5 Bed, 3 Bath
0.2 Acres BALTIMORE, MD 21216
Single Family Property, County: BALTIMORE CITY, Approximately 0.2 acre(s), Lot is 8760 sq. ft., Year Built: 1920, Four or more stories,

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$160,000
5 Bed, 3 Bath
0.17 Acres BALTIMORE, MD 21207
New this week!
Single Family Property, Subdivision: BALTIMORE, County: BALTIMORE CITY, Approximately 0.17 acre(s), Lot is 7550 sq. ft.,

There are presently 46 properties available in Baltimore that have 4+ bedrooms and 3+ baths on the market for $250,000 or less.
http://homes.realtor.com/search/searchresults.aspx?ctid=123&bd=5&bth=6&typ=1

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I seriously woudn't want to live in any of them.

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cjhsa wrote:

I seriously woudn't want to live in any of them.

I see.. so a 4 bedroom 3 bath house worth $250,000 isn't much of a house then. OK.. got it.

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