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Thu 25 Oct, 2007 11:37 am
My first language is Spanish. I was having a conversation with a good friend (american) that went like this:
American: I did not understand what Juan said
Me: He said that he will return in a minute
American: Oh, right! You are special
Me: I'm special???
American: Never mind
"You are special" did no seemed like a common reply to a person who's being helpful. Was he being sarcastic? What does it really mean? I did not know if i should have said thank you, laughed, or slap him!
Even if he was trying to be sarcastic, things like "wow you are smart" with a sarcastic tone seem more appropriate, no? Im guessing its like a common sarcastic joke... but i still dont get it
he was probably being sarcastic, which is certainly not a slappable offense...
In PC America (and other countries), you can't say that a child is stupid or subnormal or backward, you say they are "special". Maybe that is what he meant. El gringo pendejo.
"You Are Special" by by Max Lucado (Author), Sergio Martinez (Illustrator) is also what sounds like an awful typically American inspirational book.
Quote:Every now and then there is a story that touches the hearts of all who hear it. A story that speaks to your soul and says, "This is true!"
This is one of those stories. It is about the Punchinello in each of us--the part of you that struggles to believe that someone treasures you. Someone who doesn't judge you by what you look like, what you have, or what you do. Someone who loves you just because you are you.
It's a vital message we all need to hear. A message we need to share with others: You are special, no matter what.
Card catalog description
Punchinello's opinion of himself changes after talking to his creator. --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.
(Amazon)
Contrex: "el gringo pendejo": exactly my thoughts haha
I guess i understand that he was being sarcastic or joking... but im still asking myself: HOW? Maybe its a line from a movie? a local joke? It does not make sense to me.
Its all curiosity... and I want to know how to use that phrase with a sarcastic tone so that i can use it too!! I asked this guy and he said... I dont know how to explain it, but dont use it, you wont be able to pull it off.
Learn that Americans are very flippant.
He was chiding you because you understood Juan, and he did not.
Forget it. You don't want to use that kind of sarcasm in conversations.
The best response would be nothing more than a smile.
I don't know how you would expect anyone else to determine if the person to whom you were speaking was being sarcastic, as no one here saw or heard him, and haven't the cues of intonation and facial expression to judge.
It is true that some people use the expression, "well, isn't that special" in a sarcastic manner, and it refers to a recurring comedy sketch on television about "the Church Lady," and in that sketch, the character is certainly being snide. At the same time, saying that someone is special can also have nothing to do with that, nor with references to people who are developmentally disabled (or, in the common parlance, retarded). Once again, not having witnessed the exchange, none of us can reasonably say whether or not sarcasm was the intent. Some people actually do say that someone else is special without intending insult. All that being said, i do suspect at least an ironic intent on the part of the speaker, but i wasn't there, so i don't know. Only you, as the one addressed at that time, can really make a reasonable judgment even if you don't understand what you take to be an idiomatic expression, and even then you might be wrong. The fact that you felt you had to ask someone else suggests that you were uncertain at that time.
As for any response from Contrex, it would help if you knew that Contrex has provided abundant evidence in these fora that he has what one might describe as a pathological contempt for or hatred of Americans. He's about the last person here whom you should trust as a source of information on Americans and their idiomatic speech.
I guess I've just been around 10 - 16 year olds too much.
I hear conversations like that all the time.
I'll stand by my assertion that he was being flippant.
What . . . ev-ver . . . !!