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Reply Fri 19 Oct, 2007 11:19 pm
He is in troubles again with the laws.

Is the sentence correct? I believe it should be 'trouble' and 'law'.

Many thanks.
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McTag
 
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Reply Sat 20 Oct, 2007 01:52 am
"In trouble", and "the law".

If by "the law" you mean the forces of law and order, or the authorities. It is a slightly slangy expression, a kind of shorthand or abbreviation, but it's very common and widely used of course..
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Sat 20 Oct, 2007 04:28 am
Many thanks, Mc Tag.

Best wishes.
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contrex
 
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Reply Sat 20 Oct, 2007 07:08 am
One would usually say that someone was in trouble with the police, not "the law".
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Sat 20 Oct, 2007 07:11 am
Contrex- Although it is not exactly corrrect formal English, informally, being "in trouble with the law" is often used.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Sat 20 Oct, 2007 07:12 am
I fought the Law and the law won.

The Law is probably an Americanism.
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contrex
 
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Reply Sat 20 Oct, 2007 07:29 am
dadpad wrote:
I fought the Law and the law won.


The lyrics of popular songs are usually made up to fit the tune, and should hardly be taken as authoritative grammar guides, even if they are by Sonny Curtis.

For example, in "Walk Right Back", he wrote,

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But there's a lot of things a letter just can't say


He really should have written "there are a lot of things..." but that wouldn't fit the tune.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Sat 20 Oct, 2007 07:30 am
dadpad- You make an interesting point about "the law".

Yoong Liat- One of the things that you need to know is that although Americans, the British, and Australians all speak English, in many cases they way that they use is the language is sometimes not always the same.

http://www.effingpot.com/slang.shtml

http://www.peevish.co.uk/slang/links.htm

Here are a couple of sites that will give you an idea of some of the differences. In addition, in the U.S. there are many "regionalisms", where people from one part of the US express things in a different way from people from other parts.
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contrex
 
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Reply Sat 20 Oct, 2007 07:35 am
Phoenix32890 wrote:
Yoong Liat- One of the things that you need to know is that although Americans, the British, and Australians all speak English, in many cases they way that they use is the language is sometimes not always the same.


It sure isn't.

"they way they use is the language"?

"sometimes not always"?

Yoong Liat knows that already. He also knows about the Canadians, New Zealanders and South Africans.
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Sun 21 Oct, 2007 05:27 am
Thanks, everybody, who responded to my query.

Best wishes
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