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Are the sentences same in meaning?

 
 
Reply Fri 19 Oct, 2007 10:34 am
1. Nobody in our class can beat you in French.
2. None in our class can beat you in French.

Does the second sentence mean the same as the first one?

Many thanks.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 19 Oct, 2007 10:37 am
yes, but it should really be:
    No one in our class can beat you in French.
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Fri 19 Oct, 2007 10:54 am
Thanks, Reg.
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contrex
 
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Reply Sat 20 Oct, 2007 07:23 am
The use of "none" to mean either "no-one" or "nobody" is rather old fashioned but not wrong.

Quote:

None Can Stand Alone

Wearing his famed black beret and crackling with splintery opinions, Field Marshal Viscount Montgomery of Alamein popped into Washington last week. Though his visit was unofficial, Monty, as military chief of Europe's Western Union forces, delivered one deliberate message to the U.S. Chiefs of Staff: if Western Europe was to stave off invasion, the Western Germans must be rearmed for defensive warfare, under Allied command.



Time magazine, Dec 5th, 1949.
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Sat 20 Oct, 2007 09:51 am
Thanks, Contrex, for the detailed reply.
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contrex
 
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Reply Sat 20 Oct, 2007 10:16 am
A very well known example of "none" meaning "nobody" is "None Shall Sleep", the commonly given English translation of the Italian phrase "Nessun Dorma", which is the title of an aria from the final act of Giacomo Puccini's opera Turandot.
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