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Reply Tue 16 Oct, 2007 11:04 pm
Hi

I've always known 'advice' is an uncountable noun. However, why is 'advices' found in the following link. And it is from Cambridge University ... Society. I'm puzzled.

Could someone please tell me why it is so?

From a webpage of Cambridge University International Education and Training Society, http://www.societies.cam.ac.uk/iets/
" ... Summarise general situations and common difficulties for students in graduate, undergraduate, A-Levels and GCSE courses, and provide advices and assistances to individual cases."

Many thanks for your help.

Best wishes.
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tinygiraffe
 
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Reply Tue 16 Oct, 2007 11:08 pm
it looks like a typo to me. i've never heard "advices" used as a plural.

in fact it should probably be "advice and assistance" not "assistances." funny seeing that on a cambridge site.
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Roberta
 
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Reply Tue 16 Oct, 2007 11:11 pm
"advices and assistances" must be a mistake. It should be advice and assistance.
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Tue 16 Oct, 2007 11:16 pm
Hi

The following is extracted from what is found in the contents of the link.

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Summarise general situations and common difficulties for students in graduate, undergraduate, A-Levels and GCSE courses, and provide advices and assistances to individual cases.

'advices' and assistances - I'm confused.

I will give further links to show that 'advices' can be found.
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Roberta
 
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Reply Tue 16 Oct, 2007 11:24 pm
Don't care what the links say. I would never use "advices" or "assistances." In addition, Webster's dictionary has "advice" and "assistance." No s for the plural.

It's possible that it's a British thing. The quote is clearly British English.
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Tue 16 Oct, 2007 11:28 pm
Thanks, Roberta.

My British English dictionaries and British English usage books all say 'advice', never 'advices'.
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TTH
 
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Reply Wed 17 Oct, 2007 12:31 am
imo that is a bogus site, actually pathetic is a better word Laughing Laughing
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username
 
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Reply Wed 17 Oct, 2007 12:51 am
I suspect that what they're trying to say is something like: you give advice and assistance to each individual. Each individual will get different advice and different assistance, depending on his/her individual needs. So, since they are all different, collectively those are "advices and assistances"--I think they're asking for a series of kinds of advice given for particular circumstances--remember those cases of plurals of non-count nouns: "My lawn has grass. My neighbor's lawn has grass. All the lawns on my block have grass. All the lawns in my city have grass" (not "grasses"). But you can talk about "grasses", like ryegrass, Kentucky bluegrass, etc. And I think by analogy that's what they mean by "advices", but as others have pointed out it's a really strange usage, and either idiosyncratic to the person who wrote it or some sort of specialized jargon of some particularly jargonistic section of, what, a grad school of education?
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username
 
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Reply Wed 17 Oct, 2007 12:52 am
Ah, yes, I scrolled back and it is indeed apparently an ed school. So you can't consider it representative of actual English.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Wed 17 Oct, 2007 12:52 am
I think it might be some word that lawyers use as a part of their occupational lexicon. It's not gernerally used in normal english though. It's like the term "monies," which is a pluralized form of the word "money." It is incorrect under normal circumstances, but in legal jargon, it has some meaning, I guess.

Or maybe they just made it up to sound all fancy-shmancy.
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solipsister
 
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Reply Wed 17 Oct, 2007 01:08 am
Re: advice/s
Yoong Liat wrote:


Could someone please tell me why it is so?

International Education and Training Society


That would be kissing and telling, cousin.
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TTH
 
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Reply Wed 17 Oct, 2007 01:24 am
That "k" must have been bugging you Laughing Laughing
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Wed 17 Oct, 2007 02:46 am
Hi

What about the site below? Is the source authoritative enough? It states 'advices'.

http://www.answers.com/topic/advice?cat=biz-fin&method=26&initiator=FFANS

Many thanks.
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TTH
 
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Reply Wed 17 Oct, 2007 03:32 am
Yoong Liat
Advice is a noun with no plural. Would you like me to find a source to show you?
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Wed 17 Oct, 2007 03:34 am
Hi TTH

Yes, please. The more authoritative the source, the better.

Many thanks.
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TTH
 
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Reply Wed 17 Oct, 2007 03:41 am
To me, this is a reliable source........

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?dict=CALD&key=1237
"advice
noun "

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/help/codes.htm
" Uncountable or singular noun: a noun that has no plural."

Hope that helps....
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Wed 17 Oct, 2007 03:49 am
Thanks. TTH, but what do you think of the other person's sites, authoritative or otherwise?
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TTH
 
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Reply Wed 17 Oct, 2007 04:03 am
I think it is time for me to go to bed. So, good night Yoong Liat Smile
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Wed 17 Oct, 2007 04:09 am
Sweet dreams, my friend.
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 17 Oct, 2007 04:33 am
It is not uncommon to see "advices" in a certain style of writing. It is a bit archaic, a little bit old-fashioned maybe, but none the worse for that. It is not wrong.

It is immaterial whether Americans understand it or not.

Smile

Nearly six million hits are showing for "advices" on Google.
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