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16,000 hyphens. Say byebye.

 
 
ehBeth
 
Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2007 07:49 pm
Bye-bye (or is it byebye?) to 16,000 silly hyphens

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Different journals or institutions use different style guides, so it is pointless to try to stick to one. There is a person at each institution called a copy editor whose job it is to have this guide by his or her side and to change each writer's texts so that they conform to the rules. So I don't have to worry about them. It's like picking a typeface or a point size. Not my job.

And now I - and you, and all the copy editors - have to worry about these vagaries even less. That's because the new edition of The Shorter Oxford English Dictionary has done away with about 16,000 hyphens. The editors of the dictionary have decided, in an awesome display of ruthless language modification, that the conventions of hyphenation were arbitrary and needed simplification. They changed most of the hyphenated words - such as leap-frog and ice-cream - by turning them into one word (leapfrog) or two distinct words (ice cream).


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As the Oxford University Press style guide once said, "If you take hyphens seriously, you will surely go mad." (Or should that be styleguide?)


I like hyphenated words. This is going to take some getting used to.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2007 07:55 pm
I like hyphens, talk in them, except when I let them be, as lambent hyphens.







Trust me, I don't care about this or that ruling.



She says, hyphenating, needing oxygen...
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2PacksAday
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2007 08:01 pm
Me too, I often add a hyphen where it is not needed...for flow...sometimes they just look better...but I often leave them out as well, because I'm not sure.

Reread just does not work for me....re-read.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2007 08:18 pm
We might understand each other, however we splay on sides of fence on occasion.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2007 08:41 pm
I think I'm the only one who just posts semicolons as part of natural talk.

Colons seem to be impossibles.






So it goes.
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Mame
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2007 09:51 pm
Coworkers or co-workers? I favour the latter.

And I like ;s and :s...
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2007 11:11 pm
I do seem to be the queen of dots, which I need to get over........
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2007 11:15 pm
Well, I do sometimes, er, some times, use words as one, instead of hyphenating, but I still like hyphenating in some instances, or, just leaving a space.

I don't give a peach pit what a dictionary will newly say, although I gather it will affect dictionary users in the furture.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 05:53 am
From my cold, dead paws....
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 08:10 am
I have a simple rule of thumb now for hyphens, which is the product of the arrival of the personal computer. If i type a word, such as horseshit, and the spellcheck function identifies it as a misspelling, then i put in a hyphen--so i don't have to deal with horse-**** from the spell-checker.
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jespah
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 09:20 am
Dammit, does this mean I have to change my name again?
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squinney
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 09:51 am
Which has it been until now?

Jes-pah?

Or

Jesp-ah?
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jespah
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 09:56 am
Jespah Snootthorpe-Philbis.
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squinney
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 09:59 am
Ah. I see. Well, with a name like that I doubt the hyphen had really been noticed by too many. Very Happy
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squinney
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 12:28 pm
What are we gonna do about yoong liat? The lessons will have to start all over again.
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Quincy
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 12:56 pm
Since when was the Oxford Shorter English Dictionary the arbiter of the English language?
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Chai
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 02:58 pm
ossobuco wrote:
I do seem to be the queen of dots, which I need to get over........


I thought I was......the queen of dots.....


I like dots.....a lot.

It's more than a comma....it implies ponderment.

Or timing the punchline.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 04:34 pm
I agree, of course, Chai: that is, about the pondering element.


Colon! Colon! Colon alert!
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 09:57 am
Mame wrote:
Coworkers or co-workers? I favour the latter.

And I like ;s and :s...

cow-irkers
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Aa
 
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Reply Tue 16 Oct, 2007 02:40 pm
In the alt.usage.english newsgroup, "co-worker" once slid into cult status as "how to ork a cow", "cow-orker" as occupational title, and suchlike jocular riffs.

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In the first half of the 1900s, the words "to-day" and "to-night" were often shown with hyphens. Much more recently, "co-operate" was commonplace for those eschewing the dieresis.

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The trend of separate words gliding into conjoined status via hyphens and finally uniting in one two-part word may be a reflection of what happened to Earth in its early formation. Those who truly care about that earthly event sometimes sport a bumper-snicker: "Reunite Pangaea!"
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