cjhsa wrote:Toby toured Afghanistan, Iraq, and Kuwait <snip>
The man has balls ...
and Angelina Jolie and the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders and the Purrfect Angelz dancers have travelled to Iraq to meet with/entertain the troops.
Apparently balls aren't required.
Al Franken and Robin Williams have been regulars with the USO groups that Wayne Newton organized to entertain the troops. Apparently, you don't have to support the invasion to support the troops. Shocking.
usatoday link
Gotta give props to anyone who goes to entertain/support the troops.
I'm quite sure that Ted and Toby were some of the first, if not the very first, entertainers to visit Iraq and Afghanistan to entertain the troops.
You should probably have researched that before you said it, cjhsa.
Maybe, maybe not. Given the pics I've seen, they didn't exactly get to perform under USO type conditions. Almost nobody goes to Afghanistan. They were under some live fire conditions in Iraq. Kuwait was a picnic.
Yeah, Toby Keith finally made it to Afghanistan and Iraq Thanksgiving in 2004.
http://www.uso.org/pubs/uploads/CountryMusicandtheUSOJan.2006.pdf
Robin Williams was in Afghanistan in October of 2002. (The first one USO lists as going.)
http://www.uso.org/pubs/uploads/AR_Overview.pdf
Also going to Afghanistan in 2002 were Drew Carey, Roger Clemens and David Letterman with Paul Shaffer and Biff Henderson. (Christmas tours)
The two country singers that made to Afghanistan in 2002 appear to be Craig Morgan (Thanksgiving) and Aaron Tippin.
Hey.. Ted Nugent finally went there on the tour with Toby in 2004.
Bruce Springsteen's song: Who will be the last to die?
Greetings from Asbury Park
ASBURY PARK, N.J. -- Late into the first set of a concert tour that began Monday night and will stretch well into election season, Bruce Springsteen tore through his 9/11 anthem, "The Rising." Three or four years ago, that might have been the rollicking end to things. Now it's just the beginning. Before the last "li, li, li" of Springsteen's paean to the NYFD echoed down the Asbury Park boardwalk, the E Street Band had rumbled into one of Springsteen's newest songs: a full frontal attack on the Iraq war built around John Kerry's 1971 testimony on Vietnam.
Who will be the last to die?
Bruce Springsteen
We took the highway till the road went black
We'd marked, Truth Or Consequences on our map*
A voice drifted up from the radio
And I thought of a voice from long ago
Who'll be the last to die for a mistake
The last to die for a mistake
Whose blood will spill, whose heart will break
Who'll be the last to die for a mistake
The kids asleep in the backseat
We're just counting the miles, you and me
We don't measure the blood we've drawn anymore
We just stack the bodies outside the door
Who'll be the last to die for a mistake
The last to die for a mistake
Whose blood will spill, whose heart will break
Who'll be the last to die for a mistake
The wise men were all fools, what to do
The sun sets in flames as the city burns
Another day gone down as the night turns
And I hold you here in my heart
As things fall apart
A downtown window flushed with light
"Faces of the dead at five" (faces of the dead at five)
Our martyr's silent eyes
Petition the drivers as we pass by
Who'll be the last to die for a mistake
The last to die for a mistake
Whose blood will spill, whose heart will break
Who'll be the last to die
Who'll be the last to die for a mistake
The last to die for a mistake
Darlin' your tyrants and kings fall to the same fate
Strung up at your city gates
And you're the last to die for a mistake
In the summer of 2004, Springsteen toured swing states with the "Vote for Change" tour, then followed it up with appearances alongside John Kerry in Wisconsin and Ohio. The change Springsteen wanted didn't come, of course, and his new album -- the not-yet-released "Magic" -- focuses on what we've lost as a result.
In "Long Walk Home," a father tells his son that the flag flying over the local courthouse means that "certain things are set in stone: who we are, what we'll do and what we won't." But introducing "Magic's" "Livin' in the Future" Monday night -- "Woke up election day, sky gunpowder and shades of gray" -- Springsteen said that some of those things we'd never do are the ones we're doing already: illegal rendition, voter suppression, the torture of people in the custody of our government.
Springsteen's list drifted off as the band started to play; at this, the first "rehearsal concert" for a tour that will last months, Springsteen's indictment of the current administration hadn't yet developed into the full poetic bill of particulars he delivered during the Vote for Change tour in 2004. But it's there nonetheless, fleshed out in the songs Springsteen sang and the way he put them together. Early on Monday night, he played "No Surrender," the hold-your-dreams-tight rocker Kerry chose for his campaign theme, then followed it with the mournful, Iraq-tinged "Gypsy Biker": "To the dead, well it don't matter much 'bout who's wrong or right ... To him that threw you away, you ain't nothing but gone."
On those autumn nights three years ago, Springsteen told us that the "country we carry in our hearts" was waiting for us. His show Monday night was a reminder that it's still there but only there, and that the long walk back to it hasn't even yet begun.
cjhsa wrote:I'm quite sure that Ted and Toby were some of the first, if not the very first, entertainers to visit Iraq and Afghanistan to entertain the troops.
ehBeth wrote:You should probably have researched that before you said it, cjhsa.
cjhsa wrote:Maybe, maybe not. Given the pics I've seen, they didn't exactly get to perform under USO type conditions. Almost nobody goes to Afghanistan. They were under some live fire conditions in Iraq. Kuwait was a picnic.
parados wrote:Yeah, Toby Keith finally made it to Afghanistan and Iraq Thanksgiving in 2004.
http://www.uso.org/pubs/uploads/CountryMusicandtheUSOJan.2006.pdf
Robin Williams was in Afghanistan in October of 2002. (The first one USO lists as going.)
http://www.uso.org/pubs/uploads/AR_Overview.pdf
Also going to Afghanistan in 2002 were Drew Carey, Roger Clemens and David Letterman with Paul Shaffer and Biff Henderson. (Christmas tours)
The two country singers that made to Afghanistan in 2002 appear to be Craig Morgan (Thanksgiving) and Aaron Tippin.
Hey.. Ted Nugent finally went there on the tour with Toby in 2004.

Classic dialogue
No more reply from Cjhsa after that, eh? :wink:
My reply: I don't see Springsteen on that list.
yeah, springsteen is probably a homosexual atheist communist terrorist illegal immigrant, too. how did ann coulter miss him, or is she just saving it all for her next book?
quick cjhsa, publish before she does!
Our culture is lost. Bruce isn't helping.
culture is a very big thing.
rather than prove the enormous bulk of your statement, please qualify it by naming one single aspect of our culture that we had before and do not have now.
the only two i can think of is that culture used to be restricted to black and white prints/transmissions and radio, and that it used to not make to the public ear unless it praised the people performing the transmission/printing. now we have greater monopolies, but more means of communication.
somehow, i don't think those are the things you're complaining about. well, the one that basically amounts to censorship, perhaps.
are you saying you don't like the rightwing newmedia?
Our culture has been paved over and subsequently run over by urbanity.
cjhsa wrote:Our culture has been paved over and subsequently run over by urbanity.
Survival of the fittest, chumps.
Cycloptichorn
Why just survive if you cannot really live?
cjhsa wrote:Why just survive if you cannot really live?
I really live. Nothing like riding the bicycle.
Cycloptichorn
Until your testicles rot off.
You seem to get by just fine without a pair. Bicycling still rules.
Cycloptichorn
Just stay the F off the road.
I bet you've participated in critical mass. Am I right?