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What the *&%$#! is wrong with these guys?

 
 
snood
 
Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2007 09:56 am
The Republican frontrunners need a wake-up call. Maybe Kemp and Gingrich can talk some sense into 'em?


We sound like we don't want immigration; we sound like we don't want black people to vote for us," said former congressman Jack Kemp (N.Y.), who was the GOP vice presidential nominee in 1996. "What are we going to do -- meet in a country club in the suburbs one day? If we're going to be competitive with people of color, we've got to ask them for their vote."

Making matters worse, some Republicans believe, is that the decision to bypass the Morgan State forum comes after all top GOP candidates save McCain declined invitations this month to a debate on Univision, the most-watched Hispanic television network in the United States. The event was eventually postponed.

"For Republicans to consistently refuse to engage in front of an African American or Latino audience is an enormous error," said former House speaker Newt Gingrich (Ga.), who has not yet ruled out a White House run himself. "I hope they will reverse their decision and change their schedules. I see no excuse -- this thing has been planned for months, these candidates have known about it for months. It's just fundamentally wrong. Any of them who give you that scheduling-conflict answer are disingenuous. That's baloney."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/18/AR2007091801781_pf.html
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2007 09:59 am
Surprised?

Republicanism - the philosophy and party of white males (and some white females).

Cycloptichorn
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candidone1
 
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Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2007 10:18 am
You would have thought they got the picture after this debacle.
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roger
 
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Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2007 10:39 am
What Republican forerunners, Snood? I'm holding out for Barry Goldwater, again.
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Thu 20 Sep, 2007 12:21 am
Running the numbers indicates the GOP are actually correctly marshalling their strength, since there are more racist white folk than all the black vote in America.

Why suck up to Black folk who would vote Republican only if Abraham Lincoln could be raised from his grave versus courting a greater number of dumb, ignorant whites who are brainwashed into thinking that Black men want their jobs and women.
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Thu 20 Sep, 2007 12:41 am
Yeah, fear mongering sucks.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Thu 20 Sep, 2007 06:40 am
kuvasz wrote:
Running the numbers indicates the GOP are actually correctly marshalling their strength, since there are more racist white folk than all the black vote in America.

Why suck up to Black folk who would vote Republican only if Abraham Lincoln could be raised from his grave versus courting a greater number of dumb, ignorant whites who are brainwashed into thinking that Black men want their jobs and women.


Your ignoring the fact that the Republicans are pissing off homosexuals, Latinos and Asians as well.

If you piss of too many people, you lose elections.
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candidone1
 
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Reply Thu 20 Sep, 2007 08:02 am
Well, that may explain why there is so much resentment toward immigrants, and immigration. Black, brown and beige foreigners are "let" into the country, then they don't have the decency to vote for the right party.
Republicans probably hope that if they keep America white, hopefully they'll always vote right. That way, you can keep pissing off the colored people, and in doing so, continue to elevate your party's status in the eyes of all the the ignorant white folks.
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Thu 20 Sep, 2007 12:11 pm
ebrown_p wrote:
kuvasz wrote:
Running the numbers indicates the GOP are actually correctly marshalling their strength, since there are more racist white folk than all the black vote in America.

Why suck up to Black folk who would vote Republican only if Abraham Lincoln could be raised from his grave versus courting a greater number of dumb, ignorant whites who are brainwashed into thinking that Black men want their jobs and women.


Your ignoring the fact that the Republicans are pissing off homosexuals, Latinos and Asians as well.

If you piss of too many people, you lose elections.


Its not who votes in elections, its who counts the votes.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Thu 20 Sep, 2007 12:29 pm
Who voted seems to have mattered in the 2004 midterm elections.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 20 Sep, 2007 12:30 pm
Quote:
"I think it is a terrible mistake," former House speaker Newt Gingrich said in a telephone interview yesterday. "I did everything I could to convince them it was the right thing to do, [but] we are in this cycle where Republicans don't talk to minority groups," he said.


Says it all. White man's party.

Cycloptichorn
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 20 Sep, 2007 01:36 pm
Someone should tell these guys.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 20 Sep, 2007 01:37 pm
McGentrix wrote:
Someone should tell these guys.


You think they don't know it?

You have a pretty low opinion of them, then.

Cycloptichorn
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Thu 20 Sep, 2007 02:28 pm
ebrown_p wrote:
Who voted seems to have mattered in the 2004 midterm elections.


Really? That anti-war vote in 2004 really worked out.

The item Snood mentioned is a predicted result of the GOP's strategy for survival against the tide of demographic history that points to the "beiging" of the American electorate.

There is no doubt that up until the 1970's both major political parties engaged in bipartisanship based upon a common ethical consensus distilled down to the motto of "what is good for the country is good for our Party."

Yet while embracing that altruistic motto the Republicans continued to lose elections and saw the handwriting on the wall, and their demise as an instrument for political power. Thus, they embarked upon a campaign for political survival by exploiting racial divisiveness.

Their numbers are still good and they still win elections because there are so many poor white people.

and you ask why is that a factor?

Simply human nature.

The GOP will not make a poor man rich; but it will certainly give him perhaps a gift worth more than money; a chance to feel superior to another, in this case a black person.
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Sun 23 Sep, 2007 10:23 pm
in other news today.....
Quote:
Politics in Black and White
By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: September 24, 2007

....Consider voting in last year's Congressional elections. Republicans, as President Bush conceded, received a "thumping," with almost every major demographic group turning against them. The one big exception was Southern whites, 62 percent of whom voted Republican in House races.

And yes, Southern white exceptionalism is about race, much more than it is about moral values, religion, support for the military or other explanations sometimes offered. There's a large statistical literature on the subject, whose conclusion is summed up by the political scientist Thomas F. Schaller in his book "Whistling Past Dixie": "Despite the best efforts of Republican spinmeisters to depict American conservatism as a nonracial phenomenon, the partisan impact of racial attitudes in the South is stronger today than in the past."

Republican politicians, who understand quite well that the G.O.P.'s national success since the 1970s owes everything to the partisan switch of Southern whites, have tacitly acknowledged this reality. Since the days of Gerald Ford, just about every Republican presidential campaign has included some symbolic gesture of approval for good old-fashioned racism. Thus Ronald Reagan, who began his political career by campaigning against California's Fair Housing Act, started his 1980 campaign with a speech supporting states' rights delivered just outside Philadelphia, Miss., where three civil rights workers were murdered. In 2000, Mr. Bush made a pilgrimage to Bob Jones University, famed at the time for its ban on interracial dating. And all four leading Republican candidates for the 2008 nomination have turned down an invitation to a debate on minority issues scheduled to air on PBS this week....

Yet if the marchers at Jena reminded us that America still hasn't fully purged itself of the poisonous legacy of slavery, it would be wrong to suggest that the nation has made no progress. Racism, though not gone, is greatly diminished: both opinion polls and daily experience suggest that we are truly becoming a more tolerant, open society.

And the cynicism of the "Southern strategy" introduced by Richard Nixon, which delivered decades of political victories to Republicans, is now starting to look like a trap for the G.O.P....


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/24/opinion/24krugman.htm...
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