Condemn The Contemptible Constitution

Foofie wrote:

dagmaraka wrote:
Foofie wrote:

I don't agree that 'a capitalist is a ruse for rich countries to take advantage of poor ones." I believe a capitalist gives poor countries the opportunity to join the system that this planet functions on, since even Communist countries use money as a means of exchange.

The opportunity to join the system? System that the West has created to suit its economic purposes, you mean? Through enclave economies and protection of domestic markets while enforcing "open markets" without any protection on third world countries? So that they export for dirt cheap while they have to import for high prices, so that a farmer cannot in the end afford the crops on his own land? Is that the opportunity you talk about?
Perhaps it could work in a completely free market, given that economies would start at the same level of development. We don't live in that kind of a world. Opportunity you speak of lacks agent of choice or equality. it is not free.

If western countries are so exploitative, why are the developing nations (aka third world) not turning the tables on western countries by developing? Perhaps, western countries took a millenia to develop and did not backslide?

Why shouldn't western countries maintain their uber position? When did political science start to include humility and charity?

millenia to develop? all societies took 'millenia to develop', that says nothing at all. as a student of history you surely know that "we" are on top only for the last few hundred of years. which, in the grand scheme of human history, is not much at all. and that our "uber" position was gained ALSO through exploitation of others. i am not suggesting any course of action, merely pointing out that we had something to do with the state of politics and economics in the 'third world' as it is today. that, to me implies some responsibility.

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McGentrix wrote:

What are you, 12? Mom jokes? Please.

What's wrong with you now? If you can assume that I frequent whores like a typical republican like you do, I can assume that your mother is one. It does go a long way in explaining your twisted misanthropy.

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kuvasz wrote:

McGentrix wrote:

What are you, 12? Mom jokes? Please.

What's wrong with you now? If you can assume that I frequent whores like a typical republican like you do, I can assume that your mother is one. It does go a long way in explaining your twisted misanthropy.

I know it must be difficult for you typing through the pain of syphillis you have had to endure, I can only imagine how it's rotted your brain away, but why not visit a doctor, get better and come back healthy. Then you won't be such a chump that has to resort to "yo momma" jokes.

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dagmaraka wrote:

Foofie wrote:
dagmaraka wrote:
Foofie wrote:

I don't agree that 'a capitalist is a ruse for rich countries to take advantage of poor ones." I believe a capitalist gives poor countries the opportunity to join the system that this planet functions on, since even Communist countries use money as a means of exchange.

The opportunity to join the system? System that the West has created to suit its economic purposes, you mean? Through enclave economies and protection of domestic markets while enforcing "open markets" without any protection on third world countries? So that they export for dirt cheap while they have to import for high prices, so that a farmer cannot in the end afford the crops on his own land? Is that the opportunity you talk about?
Perhaps it could work in a completely free market, given that economies would start at the same level of development. We don't live in that kind of a world. Opportunity you speak of lacks agent of choice or equality. it is not free.

If western countries are so exploitative, why are the developing nations (aka third world) not turning the tables on western countries by developing? Perhaps, western countries took a millenia to develop and did not backslide?

Why shouldn't western countries maintain their uber position? When did political science start to include humility and charity?

millenia to develop? all societies took 'millenia to develop', that says nothing at all. as a student of history you surely know that "we" are on top only for the last few hundred of years. which, in the grand scheme of human history, is not much at all. and that our "uber" position was gained ALSO through exploitation of others. i am not suggesting any course of action, merely pointing out that we had something to do with the state of politics and economics in the 'third world' as it is today. that, to me implies some responsibility.

The U.S. and western nations owe nothing to no one. The developing nations want money, they sell us their raw materials.

The western nations do not have to help the developing nations develop. If we help them in any way, that's nice, but it's not our penance for anything that was done in the past.

I for one do not bite the hand that feeds me, and am grateful for living in the U.S.

I think we're talking at cross purposes. You are entitled to your opinion, and I mine. I choose not to find fault with western nations or the U.S.

I love western civilization. I don't find fault with it!

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McGentrix wrote:

kuvasz wrote:
McGentrix wrote:

What are you, 12? Mom jokes? Please.

What's wrong with you now? If you can assume that I frequent whores like a typical republican like you do, I can assume that your mother is one. It does go a long way in explaining your twisted misanthropy.

I know it must be difficult for you typing through the pain of syphillis (....only one"l' in syphilis, you ought to you know that by now from reading your medication bottles) you have had to endure, I can only imagine how it's rotted your brain away, but why not visit a doctor, get better and come back healthy. Then you won't be such a chump that has to resort to "yo momma" jokes.

That is your come-back? That? Good grief, even Finn de beagle in his worst fits of madness exhibits a higher level of discussion. I hadn't really observed your pompous, bottom-feeding routine before around here; normally I deal with the adults in the room, but it is true, and the rest of the normal a2kers are right about you. You are raise mental incompetence and incontinence to an art form.

Btw in between looking stupid you might have responded to the actual discussion. Or is it your intellectual default mode constantly to perform hit-and-run feces hurling like some monkeyboy from Borneo?

Btw too foofie

foofie wrote:

When did political science start to include humility and charity?

Political science is an analysis on social contracts and government, governments, at least America's as classically understood is supposed to ensure the health, well being and justice towards its citizens, these are dependent on moral values.

If the exploitation of others is not an abandonment of the a priori moral values of the inherent social contract that binds civilized people, by what measure is it taken as being right. A Hobbseian might saw "the law of the jungle," but that is of and in its own sense a complete capitulation of civilized behavior.

In other words, exploitation is basically uncivilized, and it is Orwellian for members of the "First World" to proclaim itself the paragons and guardians of advanced civilization while exploiting the Third World.

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Constitution
The constitution gives every American
the inalienable RIGHT to make a damn FOOL of himself---
John Chard

When a corrupt official has not a leg to stand on
he stands on his constitutional rights.---Unknown

Your Constitution is all
sail and no anchor.
Thomas babington macaulay

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"The united states constitution is law,
the Declaration of Independence is not:
and it is the Declartion of Independance,
not the constitution that
legalizes the overthrow of the government"
Milton Mayer

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Re: Constitution

Ramafuchs wrote:

The constitution gives every American
the inalienable RIGHT to make a damn FOOL of himself---
John Chard

When a corrupt official has not a leg to stand on
he stands on his constitutional rights.---Unknown

Your Constitution is all
sail and no anchor.
Thomas babington macaulay

Why not say something on your own instead of posting the above crap?

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In Rome, do as the Romans do.

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Miller
America and Venezuela - Constitutional Worlds Apart

America and Venezuela: Constitutional Worlds Apart - by Stephen Lendman

Although imperfect, no country anywhere is closer to a model democracy than Venezuela under President Hugo Rafael Chavez Frias. In contrast, none is a more shameless failure than America, but it was true long before the age of George W. Bush. The difference under his regime is that the mask is off revealing a repressive state masquerading as a democratic republic. This article compares the constitutional laws of each country and how they're implemented."
http://sjlendman.blogspot.com/2007/08/america-and-venezuela-constitutional.html

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Time: 9:05 a.m.
Place: American classroom
Children rise and face the American Flag, most put their right hand over their heart, and say:

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Children sit and the teacher starts the day. The children are mostly happy, well fed (many school systems give free breakfasts and lunch), and most enjoy being at school with friends.

For immigrants to the U.S., life is much better for them and their children than from where they came. Their children often grow a head taller than their parents, since food in the U.S. is fortified with vitamins and minerals and plentiful. The childrens' lifespans are likely to be longer than there parents; less disease, more nutritious food.

The children know of their cultural heritage from their parents, but are usually happy to be "American kids." They are treated like all other American kids by Americans.

Their parents gave their children a better life; probably for the family forever.

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lmao From your own little link there Rama:

"How does America's system of government contrast with rule under the 1999 Constitution of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela? Hugo Chavez was first elected president in December, 1998 and took office in February, 1999. He then held a national referendum so his people could decide whether to convene a National Constituent Assembly to draft a new constitution to embody his visionary agenda. It passed overwhelmingly followed three months later by elections to the National Assembly to which members of Chavez's MVR party and those allied with it won 95% of the seats. They then drafted the revolutionary Constitucion de la Republica Bolivariana de Venezuela. It was put to a nationwide vote in December, 1999 and overwhelmingly approved changing everything for the Venezuelan people."

Now how does that match up with reality?

5 of the 6 political parties in Venezuela boycotted those elections complaining that they were unfairly rigged and only 25% of the population voted in that National refferendum. And of course, the U.S. doesn't routinely send thousands of soldiers into the streets on election day to control the vote either.

Not quite the happy little party that the blog owner and you seem to think it was.

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Foofie wrote:

What's a globalist? It sounds like a ruse for poor countries to take advantage of rich countries?

How in the hell does a poor country take advantage of a rich country?

Oh man, those poor countries really have a hell of a conspiracy going with that "globalist" bull$hit. I just can't figure out why these "globalist" could be fooled into going to all these countries to be taken advantage of by all these savy poor people.

We need to send some military over there and get to the bottom of this ruse and teach these poor people a lesson in hard work and production.

Hey, maybe we could start a company (or 20) and with the help of god (and well armed military) we can help show those poor people how we became rich?

Of course in the end they will be ungrateful.They can't afford food? They need to go to college, those lazy poor people and stop this ruse of the "globalist" they take advantage of so much.

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Thanks.
I think on 17the or 18the of this month
the Wonderful constitution will be read by all the citizens of USA.
Keep your constitution as it is and have a blissful future.
Let this thread be treated as a dead thread.
Thanks

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Foofie wrote:

I choose not to find fault with western nations or the U.S.

I love western civilization. I don't find fault with it!

That, foofie, is blind faith. You "choose" to believe. fine, go ahead, believe.

I choose to study and evaluate.

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dagmaraka wrote:

Foofie wrote:
I choose not to find fault with western nations or the U.S.

I love western civilization. I don't find fault with it!

That, foofie, is blind faith. You "choose" to believe. fine, go ahead, believe.

I choose to study and evaluate.

actually dags it shows how western civilization with all of its intellectual bases to promote rationalism and scepticism is actually still-born in the boy.

He "gets" the West, but has gotten out of it only a denoted version of its true connotation.

He looks to corporeal goods as the West's ultimate achievement instead of exalting in the transcendence that lies behind the mythos of a free people thinking freely and considers the latter a threat or at least of no value.

Had he lived in 5 century BC Assyria he would still smack his lips and enjoy it.

Just call him Pangloss and make a day of it.

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I wonder if Dag knows who Pangloss is? Very Happy

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Pffft, of course i know. i didn't miss him when he died one bit.

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dagmaraka wrote:

Pffft, of course i know. i didn't miss him when he died one bit.

Died???

........

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Amigo wrote:

I wonder if Dag knows who Pangloss is?

more pointed, does foofie?

speaking the name Pangloss writes pages in a word.

btw you can download Voltaire's entire Candide in audio form here.

http://librivox.org/

http://librivox.org/candide01/

Back to the Phillies-Mets web cast!

Go Phils!

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