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Condemn The Contemptible Constitution

 
 
Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 10:07 pm
Dr kak
Should I regret for starting this controversial subject about the constitution?
As a polite person I feel sorry if I hurt the feelings of the participants.
As a rational one I have no regrets..
Constituion is also (awailble) available in Pakisthan and Pakisthan is not an unfriendly partner of any Tom Dick and Harry country.
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 02:51 am
The US Constitution allowed for over 218 years of continuous government without a coup, where opposing political parties handed over the reins of central government without a shot being fired. Show me anywhere in the world other than switzerland where such federal republican democracies have done so for over two centuries.

Since your name appears foreign, let me explain something to you with a simile; Americans are like one big family, we might be critical towards each other's politics and argue about them amongst ourselves, but few of us tolerate criticism towards our form of government by ignorant foreigners who worship cows.

Its my government your complaining about and after you bite me, shut the f&*k up about it or I'll start attacking your own government, its failure to resolve the caste system that makes hundreds of millions of indians "untouchables" and its failure to feed a half a billion of its own citizens.

If you truly want to learn and speak from a basis of knowledge instead of the standard default mode of gross and loopy ignorance for which you are known from the time you infected abuzz.com with your bad craziness, start reading the Federalist Papers.

btw As to your alleged rational "politeness," I have seen it before from you, and it still remains an empty mask hiding your own innate and insouciant cultural arrogance for which Indians are so well known.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 03:19 am
Well I guess kuvasz pretty much rapped this one up.

I kinda feel bad for the little Ramafucs guy now.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 03:03 pm
Iam not a seasoned or Veteran member
The subject is not about l cows, cast-system or about the dumb driven obedience of the consumers devoid of civil courage.
The subject is about the constitution in our days.
We have a super man who violates all the decent norms of the international ethics.
We have seen the perils of illegal wars and immoral laws.

Moreover the seya<soned respondent,
by birth I was an Indian( not my choice)
By adoption I am a German.
By thought I am a globalist and I hope I have many to share my views.
If I read a post here( I used to read many) I always try to stick to the topic of the post and never degenerate to denigrade or damage the author of the post.
Since this is not a forum for lobbyists let us be civil to air our views..
Thank you for your views which are not that of mine.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 06:26 pm
What's a globalist? It sounds like a ruse for poor countries to take advantage of rich countries?
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 09:41 pm
Foofie wrote:
What's a globalist? It sounds like a ruse for poor countries to take advantage of rich countries?


and a capitalist is a ruse for rich countries to take advantage of poor ones.

so what's your point?
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Foofie
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 07:16 am
kuvasz wrote:
Foofie wrote:
What's a globalist? It sounds like a ruse for poor countries to take advantage of rich countries?


and a capitalist is a ruse for rich countries to take advantage of poor ones.

so what's your point?


I don't agree that 'a capitalist is a ruse for rich countries to take advantage of poor ones." I believe a capitalist gives poor countries the opportunity to join the system that this planet functions on, since even Communist countries use money as a means of exchange.

I still don't know what a Globalist is??

Is it a sub-set of Solar Systemist?
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 07:26 am
Foofie wrote:
kuvasz wrote:
Foofie wrote:
What's a globalist? It sounds like a ruse for poor countries to take advantage of rich countries?


and a capitalist is a ruse for rich countries to take advantage of poor ones.

so what's your point?


I don't agree that 'a capitalist is a ruse for rich countries to take advantage of poor ones." I believe a capitalist gives poor countries the opportunity to join the system that this planet functions on, since even Communist countries use money as a means of exchange.
I still don't know what a Globalist is??

Is it a sub-set of Solar Systemist?


by what logic does the mere of use money instead of barter prove that rich countries do not take advantage of and exploit poor countries?
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Foofie
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 07:56 am
From the song in Cabaret, "money makes the world go 'round."

Once we learn how to manage money, rather than just barter, we have more opportunities, since money is more negotiable than barter.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 07:58 am
Take advantage of and exploit? Liberal buzzwords for purchasing goods and employing people that otherwise may not be employed. The world grows smaller (economically) every year.

Do third world countries expect to stay that way or do you think they might want to become something more? How else do you suppose they do that aside from working with first world countries providing labor and materials?
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Foofie
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 08:11 am
McGentrix wrote:
Take advantage of and exploit? Liberal buzzwords for purchasing goods and employing people that otherwise may not be employed. The world grows smaller (economically) every year.

Do third world countries expect to stay that way or do you think they might want to become something more? How else do you suppose they do that aside from working with first world countries providing labor and materials?


I think third world countries are now calling themselves, Developing Nations. I'm glad they're developing. Perhaps, they'll all develop the discipline to get their population to schools, and jobs. Oh, they need our help. How interesting?

It must be hard to develop a nation that has no Plains to populate, and no Civil Wars to fight, and no millions of immigrants to assimilate. Hey, that's U.S. history. Damn if we didn't pick ourselves up by our own bootstraps!
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 10:48 am
Foofie wrote:
From the song in Cabaret, "money makes the world go 'round."

Once we learn how to manage money, rather than just barter, we have more opportunities, since money is more negotiable than barter.


without using singing german homosexuals to hide beind, could you just answer the question.
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 11:16 am
McGentrix wrote:
Take advantage of and exploit? Liberal buzzwords for purchasing goods and employing people that otherwise may not be employed. The world grows smaller (economically) every year.

Do third world countries expect to stay that way or do you think they might want to become something more? How else do you suppose they do that aside from working with first world countries providing labor and materials?


Congratulations big guy, yet another "ethics-free" post from you.

The logical extension of your odious remark is likely what one of your political heros Senator Vetter might use to defend his repeated use of whores, i.e., that others should not complain about the exploitation of these women, because after all, he gave them work to do.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 11:23 am
kuvasz wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
Take advantage of and exploit? Liberal buzzwords for purchasing goods and employing people that otherwise may not be employed. The world grows smaller (economically) every year.

Do third world countries expect to stay that way or do you think they might want to become something more? How else do you suppose they do that aside from working with first world countries providing labor and materials?


Congratulations big guy, yet another "ethics-free" post from you.

The logical extension of your odious remark is likely what one of your political heros Senator Vetter might use to defend his repeated use of whores, i.e., that others should not complain about the exploitation of these women, because after all, he gave them work to do.


no problem little guy. Maybe, someday, your math teacher will teach you some logic so you will be able to actually know what a logical extension is and make one. I understand you may not like the fact that whores exist, but I am sure you have first hand experience in knowing they aren't being exploited.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 11:37 am
Back to the original topic, the Constitution is not the problem with our country, it is its saving grace. It set up a framework for continuous government with checks and balances and allowed for its own modification. If we were to scrap it and write a new one, what would be better?
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 12:07 pm
Foofie wrote:

I don't agree that 'a capitalist is a ruse for rich countries to take advantage of poor ones." I believe a capitalist gives poor countries the opportunity to join the system that this planet functions on, since even Communist countries use money as a means of exchange.


The opportunity to join the system? System that the West has created to suit its economic purposes, you mean? Through enclave economies and protection of domestic markets while enforcing "open markets" without any protection on third world countries? So that they export for dirt cheap while they have to import for high prices, so that a farmer cannot in the end afford the crops on his own land? Is that the opportunity you talk about?
Perhaps it could work in a completely free market, given that economies would start at the same level of development. We don't live in that kind of a world. Opportunity you speak of lacks agent of choice or equality. it is not free.
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 12:55 pm
McGentrix wrote:
kuvasz wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
Take advantage of and exploit? Liberal buzzwords for purchasing goods and employing people that otherwise may not be employed. The world grows smaller (economically) every year.

Do third world countries expect to stay that way or do you think they might want to become something more? How else do you suppose they do that aside from working with first world countries providing labor and materials?


Congratulations big guy, yet another "ethics-free" post from you.

The logical extension of your odious remark is likely what one of your political heros Senator Vetter might use to defend his repeated use of whores, i.e., that others should not complain about the exploitation of these women, because after all, he gave them work to do.


no problem little guy. Maybe, someday, your math teacher will teach you some logic so you will be able to actually know what a logical extension is and make one. I understand you may not like the fact that whores exist, but I am sure you have first hand experience in knowing they aren't being exploited.


No, frankly I never met your mother.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 02:40 pm
Rolling Eyes

What are you, 12? Mom jokes? Please.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 04:06 pm
Christian Constitution
Most Americans believe the nation's founders wrote Christianity into the Constitution, and people are less likely to say freedom to worship covers religious groups they consider extreme, a poll out today finds.
AMERICANS' VIEWS ON THE FIRST AMENDMENT

Beliefs reflected in an Aug. 16-26 survey:

• The First Amendment goes too far in the rights it guarantees: 25%

• Public schools should be allowed to put on Nativity reenactments with Christian music: 43%

• Teachers and public school officials should be allowed to lead prayers in schools: 58%

• Public school teachers should be able to use the Bible as literature in English class: 80%

• Public school students should be allowed to wear T-shirts with messages or pictures that might offend others: 22%

The Constitution establishes a Christian nation
• Agree: 55%
• Disagree: 41%
• Other: 4%


http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-09-11-amendment_N.htm?csp=34
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Foofie
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 04:12 pm
dagmaraka wrote:
Foofie wrote:

I don't agree that 'a capitalist is a ruse for rich countries to take advantage of poor ones." I believe a capitalist gives poor countries the opportunity to join the system that this planet functions on, since even Communist countries use money as a means of exchange.


The opportunity to join the system? System that the West has created to suit its economic purposes, you mean? Through enclave economies and protection of domestic markets while enforcing "open markets" without any protection on third world countries? So that they export for dirt cheap while they have to import for high prices, so that a farmer cannot in the end afford the crops on his own land? Is that the opportunity you talk about?
Perhaps it could work in a completely free market, given that economies would start at the same level of development. We don't live in that kind of a world. Opportunity you speak of lacks agent of choice or equality. it is not free.


If western countries are so exploitative, why are the developing nations (aka third world) not turning the tables on western countries by developing? Perhaps, western countries took a millenia to develop and did not backslide?

Why shouldn't western countries maintain their uber position? When did political science start to include humility and charity?
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