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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 03:57 am
In modern English, "It's me" is correct.
In ______ English, "It's I" is correct.

Is 'traditional' the correct word to fill in the blank?

Many thanks.
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flyboy804
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 04:05 am
"Traditional" is correct; however "formal" is more appropriate. One should not use "it is/was" me in a formal letter.
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 04:24 am
Thanks, Flyboy

"Thou art" is traditional English. Am I right?

Then what is traditional English besides the above example? Could you please give me some examples.

Many thanks.
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flyboy804
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 04:32 am
I am not sure of the various terms used. I would call it "early English". Usage such as "thou art" is found throughout the "Bible" English translations from early times.

"Thou art a blackguard"- an insult, although the term "blackguard" is not in common use today.

"Thou art my favorite musician."
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dadpad
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 04:41 am
I would use formal English when I write a letter to a politician or business leader.

"Dear sir, I request your indulgence and attention to the matter at hand. My wife and I bring this to your attention at this time....."

I would use informal english to chat with my friends in the street.

"G'day Fred, have a look at this. Me and the wife want you to have a look....

I would consider "Thou art" to be Shakespearian English. A form of english no longer in use.
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Mr Nice
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 12:57 pm
Just to make sure.

"It's I helped her" is used in a formal situation.

"It's me helped her" is used in an informal situation.

However, both are gramatically correct.

Am I right?


Thanks in advance.
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flyboy804
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 02:03 pm
Mr Nice wrote:
Just to make sure.

"It's I helped her" is used in a formal situation.

"It's me helped her" is used in an informal situation.

However, both are gramatically correct.

Am I right?


Thanks in advance.


Definitely not. "I helped her" would be used in formal or informal conversation.

"Me helped her" should never be used. It is using an objective pronoun as the subject of a sentence. "I" is a first person nominative pronoun.

In the initial question, the discussion was about using the objective form as a subjective complement (the noun following a form of the verb "to be".

In your example "her" is a direct object of an active verb and being an objective pronoun, it is properly used.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 02:16 pm
I would have said "In proper English......"
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Tomkitten
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 02:44 pm
correct word
Mr Nice - Actually, neither of your examples is quite correct. The corrected sentences would read either "It's I who helped her", or if you're being informal, then "It's me who helped her". The second is the more common usage, in American English, anyway. In either case, you need "who".
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 07:44 pm
CalamityJane wrote:
I would have said "In proper English......"


What is 'proper English'? I only know formal, informal and literary.
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Tomkitten
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 09:01 pm
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What is 'proper English'? I only know formal, informal and literary.


I guess "formal" would = "proper", but my gut feeling is that people who use the term "proper English" have learned their English from language snobs.
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Tomkitten
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 09:02 pm
correct word
To put it another way, "proper" has more than a touch of the judgmental; "formal" is more objective.
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Mr Nice
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2007 09:46 pm
It's me/I who helped her.
Thank you very much guys.

I get it now.
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