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Gay Clergy-About time or moral oxymoron?

 
 
BillW
 
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Reply Fri 19 Sep, 2003 02:09 pm
They "flow with the tide" and suddenly, too late, realize that it is a "rip" tide :sad:
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Fri 19 Sep, 2003 02:24 pm
Good extension of the metaphor, BillW. They can also be swept out to sea and flay around for an awfully long period of time before they realize they have the ability to swim to shore.
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BillW
 
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Reply Fri 19 Sep, 2003 02:39 pm
Frolic with the man-o-wars
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Fri 19 Sep, 2003 02:40 pm
Before one realizes they sting.
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BillW
 
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Reply Fri 19 Sep, 2003 02:41 pm
Got hit once myself, ouch and double ouch!!!!! We were on shore and didn't realize that those 50' tenacles go horizonal until too late Surprised

Got caught in a zip tide during that week also - thought I was a goner, then it occurred to me that I was going mostly horizonal to shore and just a little out to sea. Just maneuvered toward land, voila - saved!!!
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Fri 19 Sep, 2003 03:20 pm
But if there is consensual agreement, we will enjoy the illusion that we have all benefitted from the riptide. Laughing
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Fri 19 Sep, 2003 03:32 pm
Only if we survived, JL, only if we survived.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Fri 19 Sep, 2003 03:39 pm
Done some surfin' and some divin', scuba and free. The real danger of riptides is to try to fight 'em. Relax ... they don't last long or run far. Keep your landmarks in sight, and you'll have no trouble at all. In fact, rips can pump up some great waves, if ya just time 'em right. Stingrays and Jellyfish, on the other hand, are devil-sent demons ... avoid 'em all. Bouncin' and tumblin through coral ain't much fun, neither.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 19 Sep, 2003 08:46 pm
I always heard you should swim at right angle to riptide. But what do i (losing shift key) know...i don't ocean swim, sheer reasonable fear. i learned to swim in my late thirties in a ymca pool, can do mile - or could, hmm, no more parentheses from me -

life does bring certain right angle to tide situations to my attention...
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 19 Sep, 2003 08:49 pm
But i have occasionally dogpaddled in quiet coves, quiet at times that is, like mismaloya and la jolla. But when i moved to la jolla yo do training at Scripps's Clinic, just before i moved into the cottage across the street from the cove there was a shark attack and death. Cough, re the analogy.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2003 06:13 am
Okay, we're getting too technical on the riptide metaphor, making enough ripples to sink it. However, the shark metaphor from ossobucco reminds me of telephone solicitors...
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BillW
 
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Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2003 12:44 pm
But, sharks don't give head - they take head. And, their not a member of the clergy either...... Laughing
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whatis1029
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2003 04:58 pm
homosexuality is violative of natural law and as such a practictioner should not be held up as a moral model, let alone a member of any clergy.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2003 05:24 pm
whatis1029 wrote:
homosexuality is violative of natural law and as such a practictioner should not be held up as a moral model, let alone a member of any clergy.



Are we supposed to accept that because you say so -- or are you going to offer some arguments in support of that preposterous claim.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2003 06:27 pm
What is natural law? Exactly where is is written down? Who decides what is natural and what is not? I thought this thread had died a natural death.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2003 07:13 pm
truth
Everything that happens in nature is natural. And LAWS of nature are not laws in the sense that they are commandments for behavior. Laws in science are simply systematically observed REGULARITIES. They are what nature does and how it is, but NOT what Nature MUST do and be or suffer punishment. If you want to condemn homosexuality you must find another basis for your condemnation, unnaturalness won't cut it at all. Moreoever, if it's expressions were unnatural nobody would practice them.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 07:27 pm
Totally agree with you JLN. No surprise!
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2003 05:11 pm
truth
Yesterday, a friend told me that upon hearing the theory that Jesus may have been married to Mary Magdalen, he was relieved, having always thought that Jesus was gay. Something to do with John the Baptist and a foot fetish. Thank goodness, he was joking. He also told me that he was talking the other day to a priest who said that while he practiced celibacy, he was in fact presently not active. Twisted Evil
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2003 05:45 pm
Interesting take there, that priest's. I guess I too am a non-practicing celibate Laughing
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2003 06:02 pm
That's hilarious, JLN. As many non-celibate Priest as I've met in Southern California, there outta be a law.
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