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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2007 12:15 pm
Sorry
I was born in India where the problem is there.
I live in Germany ............ the same.
Germany and India should struggle a lot to wipe out Racial problems.
Ihope Germany will and India will never. .


That is one answer.
Of course I care all the people around the globe.
I am well/ill/misformed by the corporata stenographers.
I mean culturelless/contangarous/compassionate ones

Au
One highly qualified INDIAN I met recently had made 400 applications before he obtained the job commensurate with his EDUCATION and EXPERIENCE.
He still feel at home in USA
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helmi15
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2007 12:56 pm
When I watch TV or read the newspaper, than I get the feeling that in every country are politicians who use peoples fears and problems.
They claim that all the foreigners are to blaim for unemployment, crime........... So they want to get a better result at the next election.
But such politicians have no arguments, how to solve problems. They have just a big mouth.

But I can understand that people want to maintain western standards, for example equal rights for women. I think everyone has the right to practise his faith, but without discriminating anyone else.
For instance, I don't want to be insulted because I eat meat.
Sometimes, this is the case.... That's sad.

I think when someone decides to move to another country he or she should of course critisize habits or the traditions of the foreigners moderately if they are not ok in someones opinion.
For example, someone might disklike bullfights......
But in fact you should respect that it is part of the countrys history.
Not everything in your own nation may is alright.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 08:10 pm
I think what makes the U.S. different than other nations is that most Americans are not class conscious (resentful of other classes), as I believe many people are in other countries. That's why the Socialist Party is miniscule. There is so little class antagonisms to exploit.

People may be race conscious; people live in their own racial/ethnic niche, and fairly comfortably. They intereract with others, and its understood we all have a niche.

While one person can buy expensive brand name designer jeans, a person with less discretionary money can still buy new jeans, just not brand name. But Americans tend not to care, I believe, as far as resenting the shopper with more expensive purchases.

The big equalizer in U.S. society is education. A bright individual can totally change his/her life with education. A percentage of people resent the educated to a degree. America has a history of the popular culture being anti-intellectual. Perhaps, that's neuronal racism of a sort?

Also, I've been told that what makes the U.S. different is that an upper class man (from a wealthy family) might just marry a poor girl. In many other countries, that just doesn't happen. For many people, America is the image of the Cinderella story come to life.

The U.S. in unique. I don't think it should be compared to any other country.
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Ragman
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 08:26 pm
foofie: Have you never heard of country clubs in US? what do you think that whole environment is about?

Have you never seen what happens in an expensive neighborhood of real estate when someone lets their lawn go..or paints their house a color the others don't approve of? Have you never seen the shunning when someone with a ruin-down old car parks it in a driveway for a long time? many neighbors just about get the Mayor on the phone or seek selectmen to put a stop to it. That's all about class consciousness. These are small examples. Many more or far more harmful.

Try poking your head out now and then and look around at rich places like Darien around Stamford CT, or Dover in Massachusetts, or Beverly Hills or Carmel in California. Every State almost in USA has them and it's often ugly.

USA can and should be compared to other countries as far as class consciousness. It shows itself in many ways..just not the same ways. Less so than over in England..or Germany...or India..but still quite class conscious in its own right.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 08:38 pm
Ragman wrote:
foofie: Have you never heard of country clubs in US? what do you think that whole environment is about?


You mean like in the movie, "Good-bye Columbus"? Those members had no resentment against anyone, not even the Gentile country clubs that might have excluded them. That's why big Jewish country clubs are built.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodbye%2C_Columbus_%28film%29
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Ragman
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 08:41 pm
Throwing up my hands.

They had no resentment? what?!

Have you never been in a country club?

You don't get it, it seems. If there was no class consciousness there would be no need to have an additional country club or possibly even ANY club. The whole purpose of country clubs in the first place is for gatherings of certain niches to hang out with others of that similar background.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 08:46 pm
Ragman wrote:
foofie: Have you never heard of country clubs in US? what do you think that whole environment is about?

Have you never seen what happens in an expensive neighborhood of real estate when someone lets their lawn go..or paints their house a color the others don't approve of? Have you never seen the shunning when someone with a ruin-down old car parks it in a driveway for a long time? many neighbors just about get the Mayor on the phone or seek selectmen to put a stop to it. That's all about class consciousness. These are small examples. Many more or far more harmful.

Try poking your head out now and then and look around at rich places like Darien around Stamford CT, or Dover in Massachusetts, or Beverly Hills or Carmel in California. Every State almost in USA has them and it's often ugly.

USA can and should be compared to other countries as far as class consciousness. It shows itself in many ways..just not the same ways. Less so than over in England..or Germany...or India..but still quite class conscious in its own right.


I said class consciousness, as class resentment of another's class above them. The kind that made for strong Socialist or Communist Parties. America doesn't have that. If you see class consciousness in the U.S., it's consciousness about one's own class, like you're pointing out above. No resentment to those above or below their respective class. These are my opinions.
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Ragman
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 08:49 pm
Watch what happens when you park an expensive Porsche in lower income neighborhood. You think THAT's NOT class resentment?

If you don't think it is, you just aren't getting it!

There's a marked class consciousness from lower to upper and vice versa...it's been there for ages.
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