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Minneapolis Bridge Collapse

 
 
TTH
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 03:30 pm
Butrflynet wrote:
I'm betting that many local governments and corporations decided it was cheaper to take the chance on a failure rather than spend the money to detect and fix what might be a problem; and the dice has been rolled a few too many times.
I would not doubt it one bit.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 04:01 pm
TTH wrote:
Butrflynet wrote:
I'm betting that many local governments and corporations decided it was cheaper to take the chance on a failure rather than spend the money to detect and fix what might be a problem; and the dice has been rolled a few too many times.
I would not doubt it one bit.


Beautifully written, TTH. Your words sometimes take my breath away.
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TTH
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 04:40 pm
Nice to see you too gus Laughing Laughing Laughing
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 04:42 pm
I was on that friggin bridge. Last November. I was that friggin close to being carp feed.
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TTH
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 04:44 pm
It is nice to know you are safe now. Have you checked out that crush thread? I thought I saw your name on it Laughing
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 04:45 pm
Dys?
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 04:51 pm
Yes?
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 05:26 pm
What you two up to?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2007 11:02 am
Quote:
MINNEAPOLIS ?- As cranes carefully began the process of removing cars, trucks and a school bus from the twisted concrete and steel wreckage of a collapsed Minneapolis bridge Sunday, divers found another body in the Mississippi River, raising the official death toll to nine.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293044,00.html
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2007 12:52 pm
design for new bridge -

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/08/13/national/a060603D45.DTL
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2007 08:18 pm
It was dung folks.


Experts tie pigeon dung to Minn. collapse
Posted 4h 38m ago

ST. PAUL (AP) ?- Pounded and strained by heavy traffic and weakened by missing bolts and cracking steel, the failed interstate bridge over the Mississippi River also faced a less obvious enemy: Birds, specifically pigeons.
Inspectors began documenting the buildup of pigeon dung on the span near downtown Minneapolis two decades ago.

Experts say the corrosive guano deposited all over the Interstate 35W span's framework helped the steel beams rust faster.

Although investigators have yet to identify the cause of the bridge's Aug. 1 collapse, which killed at least 13 people and injured about 100, the pigeon problem is one of many factors that dogged the structure.

"There is a coating of pigeon dung on steel with nest and heavy buildup on the inside hollow box sections," inspectors wrote in a 1987-1989 report.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 12:27 pm
Don't cross the bridge
http://www.answers.com/topic/don-t-cross-the-bridge-till-you-come-to-it
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Miller
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 12:42 pm
Pigeon poop mixed with water, gets very heavy and slippery. Cool
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 07:28 pm
I haven't kept up with all my architecture and engineering news lately, so this link is a bit late --

about the chance for visual beauty with the new bridge.

http://www.startribune.com/commentary/story/1381736.html
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 07:37 pm
Design chosen, may be modified --

http://www.startribune.com/10204/story/1474759.html
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jan, 2008 04:23 am
Design flaw cited in bridge collapse

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Steel plates connecting beams in the Interstate Highway 35W bridge in Minneapolis were too thin by half and fractured, "the critical factor" in the collapse that killed 13 people and injured 145, the National Transportation Safety Board said Tuesday.

The connectors, called gusset plates, were roughly half the 1-inch thickness they should have been because of a design error, NTSB Chairman Mark Rosenker said. Investigators found 16 fractured gusset plates from the bridge's center span.

"It is the undersizing of the design which we believe is the critical factor here. It is the critical factor that began the process of this collapse. That's what failed," Rosenker said at a news conference.

What caused the bridge to collapse during rush-hour traffic in the early evening of Aug. 1 ?- "the straw that broke the camel's back," as Rosenker put it ?- is not yet known, he said. A final report by the NTSB is expected this fall.

[...]

However, the NTSB can't discount the possibility of similar errors in similar bridges, he said, adding that states and contractors should look at the original design calculations for such bridges.

The NTSB issued a safety recommendation to the Transportation Department's Federal Highway Administration suggesting that the agency require bridge owners to do so.

[...]

Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl, a professor of civil and environmental engineering at the University of California at Berkeley and an expert on gussets, spent 10 days in Minneapolis after the collapse gathering information.

"I concluded that the construction load may have been the last straw," he said.

The bridge was deemed "structurally deficient" by the federal government as far back as 1990, and the state's maintenance of the structure has been questioned. But Rosenker said the NTSB investigation has found no evidence that cracking, corrosion or other wear "played any role in the collapse of the bridge."
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jul, 2008 07:34 pm
from today's SFchronicle,


http://imgs.sfgate.com/n/pictures/2008/07/18/paint12.jpg

caption -

Night landscape: Artist Scott Lloyd Anderson paints a nocturne as hard-hats fill the gap between the spans of the new I-35W bridge in Minneapolis with concrete. The old bridge collapsed during rush hour Aug. 1, 2007, killing 13 and injuring scores.
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