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Wed 18 Jul, 2007 08:41 am
Over the years,
I have noticed that people who decide to commit suicide
sometimes murder their spouses and children,
before their own suicide.
In my opinion, it wud be better if thay committed suicide B4
murdering members of their families.
Opinions of Y thay commit these murders ?
It seems sad that this woman
and a boy of only 7 years of age were murdered like this,
with Bibles put next to them by their murderer.
Maybe he shud have read what it says about killing.
History shows that being too close to suicidal people is DANGEROUS.
( Note that the murderer HAD NO NEED OF GUNS to accomplish his carnage; he did it ANYWAY. )
(AP) Pro wrestler Chris Benoit had steroids and other drugs in his system
when he killed his wife and young son last month and hanged himself in
the family's home, investigators said Tuesday.
Benoit's body contained 10 times the normal level of testosterone, which
appeared to have been injected shortly before he died, as well as the anti-
anxiety drug Xanax and the painkiller hydrocodone, authorities said.
The Georgia Bureau of Investigation said Benoit tested negative for alcohol.
The state's top medical examiner, Dr. Kris Sperry, said there was no evidence
of any other anabolic steroids in the wrestler's body, and nothing to show
that steroids played a role in the death of Nancy and Daniel Benoit.
"An elevation of that ratio does not translate into something abnormal
in a person's thought process or behavior," he said.
Sperry said the boy appeared to have been sedated when he was
asphyxiated, and Benoit's wife had a "therapeutic" level of sedatives in her body.
Benoit killed his wife and 7-year-old son, placed Bibles next to their
bodies and then hanged himself on the cable of a weight machine.
Anabolic steroids were found in the home, raising questions about
whether the drugs played a role in the killings. Some experts believe
steroids can cause paranoia, depression and violent outbursts known as "roid rage."
Benoit's wife, Nancy, tested positive for Xanax, hydrocodone and the
painkiller hydromorphone. Daniel Benoit had Xanax in his system, authorities said.
The GBI said it could not perform tests for steroids or human growth
hormones on the boy because of a lack of urine.
Federal authorities have charged Benoit's personal physician, Dr. Phil Astin,
with improperly prescribing painkillers and other drugs to two patients
other than Benoit. He has pleaded not guilty.
Investigators have also raided Astin's office several times since the
deaths, seizing prescription records and other documents.
Before he was charged, Astin told the AP he prescribed testosterone for Benoit,
a longtime friend, in the past. He would not say what, if any, medications
he prescribed when Benoit visited his office June 22, the day authorities
believe Benoit killed his wife.
I think they kill their families and say "oh ****!" and then kill themselves. I'm not sure suicide was part of the original plan.
It is frequently the fact in such cases
that the murders and suicide resulted from elaborate plans,
over several weeks or several months.
In some cases, the murder victims suspected that it was coming.
The victims needed to adequately ARM themselves against their homicidal parents,
but failed to do so, and the death penalty was inflicted upon them for that failure.
That was probably not so in THIS case.
A few years ago, I was in St. Paul, Minn. for a convention.
A woman jumped into the Mississippi River
and committed suicide, after throwing in her 2 children,
both of whom died.
Well OmSig, its hard for many victims to "arm" themselves when often children are the victims. You ever see a 6 month old shoot a glock? lol
There are a lot of reasons murder/suicides happen. Boomerang is right on one count when a fight between family members, lovers, coworkers, friends, etc gets heated and one person murders the other out of rage or even premeditation. Once the act has been completed the murderer kills him/herself out of an act of desperation to prevent the shame or consequence of their actions.
Other times there are deeper reasons. One person might simply be crazy. Although it wasnt a murder/suicide, Andrea Yates murdered her 5 kids thinking that she was actually "Saving them" from a sinful world.
what the hell.... they were home...
Poor Yates, she's sitting in jail while her X-husband remarried and is enjoying the good life.
Will he be having more kids?
I guess time will tell, Doctor
Maybe his next batch of kids will know how to fire a gun, just in case their mother goes crazy and decides to drown them in the tub...
Miller wrote:Maybe his next batch of kids will know how to fire a gun,
just in case their mother goes crazy and decides to drown them in the tub...
Better to HAVE a gun and not NEED it
than to NEED a gun and not have it
I guess the children we are discussing found that out.
I'm sitting here thinking of the original question.
Like boom said, it can be the "oh ****" response.
The "maybe they're just crazy" response, is obviously incomplete. What was their thought process?
If they were bent on suicide, and had been planning it, I can imagine they may have felt they were saving their families from the sorrow of having to live without them.
They might be thinking this is the way to keep their family with them.
They might think they are saving their families and themselves from this cruel cruel world.
The person commiting suicide may think they have an insight that tells them they know best, and if they are gone, there's no sense in others being around.
They may be having thoughts that are totally inconprehensible to most people, but make total sense to them.
That's just the first few thoughts I've come up with.
Im having a problem with the whole "children having guns thing". True my dad taught me to shoot when I was 12 but he instilled in me the fear of god to ever touch a rifle without him there.
I just don't think children (7 yrs old as you stated before) have the mental capacity yet to understand what it means to shoot someone and when its appropriate. True you could say that its the parents responsibility to teach the child gun safety (like my father did), but then doesnt that make it difficult to use that gun against the parent if the parents gone gonzo and is trying to kill them?
Chldren rarely have the ability to stand up to their parents, thats a trait learned later in life, specifically in their teens. All I can see is a child being more familiar with the gun and accidently blowing off a friends head while playing with it.
Re: Y DO SUICIDES MURDER THEIR FAMILIES ?
OmSigDAVID wrote:
In my opinion, it wud be better if thay committed suicide B4
murdering members of their families.
yeah. anyone can commit a murder while alive. but try that AFTER you're dead. Now that's art!
Ha! I was thinking the same thing, dag.
Yes, I've done that before, but it really hard.
After Andrea Yates killed her 5 kids, she didn't kill herself and she certainly didn't kill her louse of a husband, which is something she should have done.
Anybody know where I can get my hands on some of that AUTO SPAM FILTER ?
Miller wrote:After Andrea Yates killed her 5 kids,
she didn't kill herself and she certainly didn't kill her louse of a husband,
which is something she should have done.
Well, unlike his progeny,
maybe
HE wud not have put up that.
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