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Ban Girls Gone Wild Commercials?

 
 
dadpad
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 09:56 am
down here we have an advertising standards board who will accept your complaint ifyou feel standards of decency are breached.

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The ASB is here to make sure all advertising, wherever it appears, meets the high standards laid down in the advertising codes. Our website will tell you more about the rules for advertising, let you complain online, and explain how the ASB is working to keep Australian advertising standards as high as possible.


Here are a listing of case studies
http://www.adstandards.com.au/pages/casestudy_search.asp
The studies are downloaded as adobe files which I have downloaded and found to be safe.

Now I realise that non of that is of any use to you squinney but may provide background for a search for a similar organisation in your own neck of the woods.
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jespah
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 09:56 am
I'm not a parent and I definitely have a problem with 'em. They are composed of pics of a lot of drunk kids who aren't thinking clearly about the implications of what they're doing. I don't love seeing people profiting from that. So I have a problem with the videos to begin with.

As for the ads -- agreed -- unless you want to Tivo out the ads (and not everyone has Tivo, of course), the ads are there. With a little greyed out, whoo hoo! Look what fun we're having! Here, I'll drop my pants! Thanks for the fifty bucks! Party!!

Even greyed out, it's obvious what's going on and it's obvious that there's an awful lot of exploitation going on. It's troubling to see that the cable channel thinks that that's the demographic that's also watching Scrubs. At 8:30 PM.

Want me to change the channel? Well, hey, what do I do when it's everywhere? We are not talking about free expression here, we are talking about savvy sober adults making a buck off a drunken kid's body and lack of judgment, and then basic cable tossing the ad out there for all to see, even if they don't want to. Want to advertise it? Hey, knock yourself out -- but not on basic cable and not during earlier hours. Parents and caregivers are pushed to do all of the work when it comes to managing what kids are seeing, but the cable company can certainly rotate its ads in a different manner and at different times. After all, they are the ones putting it out there. I don't see a problem with not letting them off scot-free for this.
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squinney
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 09:57 am
I must say, OBill, that given your stance on abused women, this really surprises me.

Then, I connect the low self esteem, overly sexual behavior suggesting lack of self respect, and inability of men to listen to "no" to over exposure to things like porn and GGW being in our faces.

I'll ask again - do you want regular porn on basic cable at 8:00? Shall we go ahead and start advertising strap-ons during American Idol?

And, gee, we never see male privates advertised, now do we?
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dadpad
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 10:06 am
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And, gee, we never see male privates advertised, now do we?

Dicks are ugly suckers squinney.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 10:06 am
Being a parent, I monitor what my child is watching on TV, yet I want
her to feel comfortable with nudity and sexuality,and this includes bi-sexuality and homosexuality -
even though she's only 11 years old. When we're in Europe, there is a lot of nudity on TV, and from the initial "yuck",
she's gone to a natural state where she just acknowledges that it is
part of a particular scene.

Frankly, I am more appalled at the violence that is shown on prime time
TV than at sexual indiscretions. Let's face it, kids face a great deal of violence in school these days, not orgies.

Now, we haven't seen this particular commercial (it's probably past our
bedtime), but if we did, I'd take it as an opportunity to explain why it would be not appropriate to act in this manner.
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squinney
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 10:13 am
As the parent of 16 and 18 (in a few weeks) year olds I can tell you that explainations and discussions at 11 are a lot different from reality after the hormones have kicked into full gear.

Tolerance of homosexuality and bi-sexuality is one thing. Encouraging it is another.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 10:15 am
I see nothing wrong with nudity. But, I agree that Girls Gone Wild is an exploitive endeavor that portrays an unhealthy aspect of it. I definitely don't like that my grandchildren have seen more demented sex and violence in their preteens than I had by my 21st birthday.
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eoe
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 10:16 am
I say ban them. Period. They're disgusting and demeaning.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 10:16 am
Seriously, squinney?

I'm not sure what I think yet about the issue as a whole, but the homosexuality/ bi-sexuality element is by far the least problematic, to me. Teenagers experiment, then settle down with someone they love -- doesn't matter one whit to me which gender my kid experiments with or who she falls in love with, so long as she's safe (in all senses -- protection + good judgement).
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 10:21 am
I'm a little less uptight about this than squinney and I don't mean uptight in a denigrating way.

so many people are concerned about young girls making bad decisions and what are they going to do later in life and it's so demeaning to them.
No, they are just girls who have CHOSEN to act like they're acting. they may have made bad decisions because they're high. they CHOSE to get high. they may be experimenting with bisexual sex. they have CHOSEN to. So much for the sympathy angle for the girls. Why don't they show boys doing this in the middle of scrubs? Not a big enough audience for it to make financial sense. It's about money. Period.

As far as my cubs seeing it on tv I'm not wild about it not so much because I think they'll be influenced to behave that way because of it. I have more confidence in my cubs than that, (and so does squinney) but in the end I can only raise them the best I can and then after a certain point they will decide for themselves if they want to pull their naughty bits out and perform sexual acts for all to see. So far so good on 3 out of 3 adult children.

My main problem with it is the desensitization that goes with it. Sex is the greatest thing IMO, and there are so many ways to do it and keep it fresh, but if kids start getting exposed to all kinds, brands and varieties of sex as children, what will they have to look forward to? My complaint is that constant exposure to sex takes the edge off it and robs children of their innocence, and that I don't approve of.

I guess that's one of my biggest complaints.... the end of innocence, the end of wonder. I had it taken from me at an early age on many levels and it sucks.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 10:24 am
I agree, squinney, when they're 16 and 18 years old, then there is no
need to explain anything anymore, they're practically adults and have
had their first sexual encounter (perhaps).

If the commercials are true pornography, then they have no place in
prime time TV. THis should be strictly pay-per-view TV.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 10:40 am
dadpad wrote:
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And, gee, we never see male privates advertised, now do we?

Dicks are ugly suckers squinney.


as opposed to those gorgeous vaginas...... looks like someone fell on an axe and bandaged the wound with alfalfa sprouts......
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dadpad
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 10:52 am
The actions of the kids portrayed are risk taking activities. In fact by sitting here saying ohhh terrible ooohhhh mustnt we make those actions even more risky. Just like smoking pot and protest rallies.

Maturing humans need to take risks some psyc would be able to tell you why but its probably to improve self esteem enough to be able to break away from the parental unit. In years gone by you dived off a tower with a vine attached to your leg or went out and speared a lion or fought off barbarians.
Fast cars for boys and sexually provocative clothing/actions for girls all achieve the same results.

Our children could live such cossetted lifestyles that they are unable to take the risks they need to in order to cut the apron strings.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 10:54 am
dadpad and I are available for children's birthday parties.....
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littlek
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 10:55 am
Oh, come on! There are risks and there are RISKS.
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Gargamel
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 10:57 am
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
dadpad wrote:
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And, gee, we never see male privates advertised, now do we?

Dicks are ugly suckers squinney.


as opposed to those gorgeous vaginas...... looks like someone fell on an axe and bandaged the wound with alfalfa sprouts......


Or two partially grilled strips of fajita meat.

What's most dangerous about these ads, by the way, is that they may condition boys to become attracted to VERY stupid sorority girls with STDs and severe emotional problems their rich but unloving daddies saddled them with long ago--in other words, all you youngsters out there, when her boobs aren't in your face, you'll be rubbing salve on your infected balls and watching her try to eat books.
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flushd
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 11:04 am
There is no need for those commercials to be on at 8:30 at night.

I agree that they belong on a porn channel. 'Girls Gone Wild' is nothing even close to booby shots or regular sex even.

It is like a crude, degrading version of light porn. The next step is Rapper Gang Bangs in public places. Those aren't allowed to be advertised during the evening. Why GGW?

Maybe one exception I would make is to allow the commercials to run during daytime trashy talk shows, on the same channels. Jerry Springer with GGW commercials.

I don't think it is so much about censorship as requiring those who schedule and are making major bucks via television to show some basic responsibility to the soceity they are supposed to be serving. Instead of eating it all up in the name of freedom. Ha.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 11:04 am
It is not spring where you are. but if it were i would say look out your window at the posturing male animals and brightly plumed birds, all displaying their readiness for mating.
I see very little difference.
We readily accept sales of large powerfull motor vehicals for youg men. which fullfills some needs (see how strong and powerfull I am you need a mate who is strong and powerfull). women are generally more about procreation so should they not display their readiness?

i do however have reservations about the exploitation of such behavior for profit.

Are powerfull car sales to young men exploitation?
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squinney
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 11:06 am
sozobe wrote:
Seriously, squinney?

I'm not sure what I think yet about the issue as a whole, but the homosexuality/ bi-sexuality element is by far the least problematic, to me. Teenagers experiment, then settle down with someone they love -- doesn't matter one whit to me which gender my kid experiments with or who she falls in love with, so long as she's safe (in all senses -- protection + good judgement).


I'll be sure to check back with you in ten years. Very Happy

I realize my college years are now 20 years behind me, but it never crossed my mind to experiment with females. I wasn't aware of anyone doing so with same sex just to check it out.

That it is now prevelant in our high schools is bothersome not because of a lack of tolerence, but because it is cavalier. There's no love. It's just thought of as fun, which is where the lack of self respect comes in.

IMO, Girls Gone Wild plays into that and makes it look like the norm.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 11:06 am
In general I'm with O'Bill on censorship. However, I see a major distinction here in that this is a commercial and not a show. Nobody chooses to watch a channel because of its commercials (well, in this case maybe they do). The general expectation is that the commercials would have similar content to the shows they are played during. In this case, while Scrubs can be a little raunchy, a GGW commercial exceeds that expectation.
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