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Was Hitler good for the World in any way?

 
 
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Reply Fri 6 Feb, 2004 09:04 am
Hitler gives us a marker, and a scapegoat such as:

"Well, at least the Bush Administration isn't as bad as Hitler, yet!"
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Reply Fri 6 Feb, 2004 04:04 pm
OMG that sooo came out wrong i meant that jews already knew morals and that why didn't they get there butts out of there, i would of stoled money to get my ass out of that.

I NEED to read my stories before i post them
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Reply Fri 6 Feb, 2004 07:42 pm
I figured out you didn't mean that, squeakz. Sorry for my sort of lecturing tone... You may need to read what you post but I need to edit my words too.

Why doesn't anybody run? Some did leave. It is often hard to pick up and leave your lifetime surroundings. Besides, even though there was precedent for massacres (pogroms), who could imagine something would happen in your life on this scale, and that it would happen in some of the world's most "civilized" countries..
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Reply Fri 6 Feb, 2004 07:55 pm
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So maybe the reason that we can put evil down for a time but never really dispose of it is because evil in and of itself is efficient.


Sorry Bi Polarity but you are going to have to explain this in more detail. Confused
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Reply Fri 6 Feb, 2004 08:45 pm
Evil is efficient. It accomplishes it's goals ruthlessly and single mindedly because it is not burdened or deterred from it's goals by questions of morals or consequence.
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Reply Sat 7 Feb, 2004 11:07 am
did you mean consequence or conscience
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Reply Sun 8 Feb, 2004 12:51 pm
Gas chambers still in business!

Whilst browsing internet radio stations I came across this.

http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=57415
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Reply Sun 8 Feb, 2004 01:03 pm
fresco wrote:
Gas chambers still in business!

Whilst browsing internet radio stations I came across this.

http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=57415


Well, this "news" started with this BBC press release eight days ago.

Then, there was the mentioned BBC2 programme last Sunday.

Which led to reactions, you quote, but also to such as here:

Auschwitz Under Our Noses
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Reply Sun 8 Feb, 2004 01:30 pm
According to the February 2, 2004 issue of the International Herals Tribune
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The human rights group Amnesty International said it had been unable to confirm previous reports of such testing.

‘‘We have heard of these allegations but we cannot confirm them,’’ a spokeswoman said. Envoy optimistic about talks.“
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Reply Sun 8 Feb, 2004 01:48 pm
The more contemporary question is, is/was Bush good for the World in any way?
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Reply Sun 8 Feb, 2004 06:09 pm
(Sorry Walter on the late news item)

As for Bush he'll probably come up smelling of roses ! (Not many remember that Churchill advocated using poison gas on the Kurds)
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Reply Mon 9 Feb, 2004 01:46 am
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
did you mean consequence or conscience


both actually....
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Reply Thu 4 Mar, 2004 10:25 am
hmm
at first hitler did lots of good in fact thats was why the allies appeased him with the sudeten land he was rebuilding a germany that had just faced two depresssion one after the other ( peace treatys espesh versaille and then the wall street crash) but he then became greedy and his own aims became more public and more of a danger.
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Reply Thu 4 Mar, 2004 11:29 am
Re: hmm
mutwillig hexe wrote:
at first hitler did lots of good ... .


Any Weimar government, which could have stayed for a whole period in office, would have done the same: all "good" Hitler did (if any!), was build up on ideas/projects etc by former governments.
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Reply Thu 4 Mar, 2004 02:49 pm
Hi Mullit ex wig

What was it that Hitler did a lot of good at first?
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Reply Sat 6 Mar, 2004 10:35 am
umm
well isupose i is a personal desicion bt hitler rebuilt germany and maybe because the weimar republic didnt have a figure head like hitler it would have been more difficult and if hitlers personal greed and the need for money had not tken over maybe we wouldnt be here disscussing it.maybe this strong figure head was wat germany needed
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Reply Wed 10 Mar, 2004 08:45 pm
hitler did nothing for the world exept create fear and terror. he did absolutely NOTHING, he was better off never being here!
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Reply Thu 11 Mar, 2004 07:08 pm
Hitler is the rebuttal of the classic argument that man can only be evil due to lack of education. When you see a reenactment of the transcript from the Wansee Conference with a gaggle of German PhDs working on the details of the Holocaust, it becomes obvious that you can be really smart and really evil. Your character determines whether you are evil, not your education. Education simply amplifies the speed toward the direction your character points.

Tantor
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Reply Fri 12 Mar, 2004 01:17 am
Tantor wrote:
Hitler is the rebuttal of the classic argument that man can only be evil due to lack of education. When you see a reenactment of the transcript from the Wansee Conference with a gaggle of German PhDs working on the details of the Holocaust, it becomes obvious that you can be really smart and really evil. Your character determines whether you are evil, not your education. Education simply amplifies the speed toward the direction your character points.

Tantor
Could you please explain, what you mean by that?
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Reply Fri 12 Mar, 2004 05:35 am
Well if Hitler was the rebuttal of that argument, then perhaps he was some good for the world, in forcing upon us a salutory lesson.

Walter, I think Tantor was saying some people thought evil stemmed from ignorance. Educated people tend to be good. I don't know who exactly were these people. Probably Plato or Aristotle.
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