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Where the religious are located

 
 
Coolwhip
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2007 07:56 am
If anyone could find some figures on how many people(%), according to this survey, are religious, that would be great. Because this figure seems a little low according to other polls I've read.

Wikipedia wrote:
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In a private survey conducted in 2001, 76.7 percent of American adults identified themselves as Christian, [...].


If we are to believe these numbers, this map is very inaccurate.
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Coolwhip
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2007 07:58 am
And I further quote Wikipedia:

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The total reporting non-Christian religions in 2001 was 3.7 percent, up from 3.3 percent in 1990. The leading non-Christian faiths were Judaism (1.4 percent), Islam (0.5 percent), Buddhism (0.5 percent), Hinduism (0.4 percent), and Unitarian Universalism (0.3 percent). Between 1990 and 2001, the number of Muslims and Buddhists more than doubled. From 8.2 percent in 1990, 14.2 percent in 2001 described themselves as agnostic, atheist, or simply having no religion,[130] still significantly less than in other postindustrial countries such as Britain (44 percent) and Sweden (69 percent).[133]
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2007 08:26 am
xingu wrote:
S Ohio is not very rugged. I have always imagined that rural farm folks are the religious ones, conservative who stick to tried and true ways. The urban people less so.


Actually, southern Ohio is rather rugged--it is part of the geological formation known as the Shawnee Hills. The lowest population densities are there, as well as the highest unemployment rates and the lowest county tax bases. It also includes, however, Cincinnati. I was, though, just as surprised to see the lack of reported religious affiliation there.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2007 08:32 am
Coolwhip wrote:
All the statistics I've ever heard about atheism in the US never claimed that the percentage was over 10%, so I just feel this doesn't add up.


The lightest areas simply refer to areas in which less than 35% of the population, based on the 2000 census, report an affiliation with an organized religion which participates in the reporting program. That is no reason to assume that 65% of the population of those regions are atheists. Statistics are tricky enough when polling people, because of all sorts of traits of human nature which lead people to respond in odd ways. This information is from a "self-sampling" source--it comes from people who chose to respond to a survey by an association of organized religious bodies who chose to participate in the organization. It does not include people who did not chose to respond, and it does not include organized religious bodies who do not choose to participate in the association.
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Coolwhip
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2007 08:37 am
Setanta wrote:
Coolwhip wrote:
All the statistics I've ever heard about atheism in the US never claimed that the percentage was over 10%, so I just feel this doesn't add up.


The lightest areas simply refer to areas in which less than 35% of the population, based on the 2000 census, report an affiliation with an organized religion which participates in the reporting program. That is no reason to assume that 65% of the population of those regions are atheists. Statistics are tricky enough when polling people, because of all sorts of traits of human nature which lead people to respond in odd ways. This information is from a "self-sampling" source--it comes from people who chose to respond to a survey by an association of organized religious bodies who chose to participate in the organization. It does not include people who did not chose to respond, and it does not include organized religious bodies who do not choose to participate in the association.


Right. Thats why I said the map is somewhat inaccurate, but I guess it shows a pretty good picture of the religiosity of different parts of America.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2007 08:37 am
http://fermi.jhuapl.edu/states/maps1/oh.gif

This is a topographic map of Ohio. The correlation, if any, to the distribution map seems to be in the southern part of the state. The eastern portion of the state is even more rugged than the southern portion of the state, but it is also more densely populated--it has been settled much longer than the rest of the state. It is probable that a great many of the people in the rural portions of southern Ohio belong to charismatic or other fundamentalist sects which do not participate in the association of religious bodies who participated in the survey.
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Coolwhip
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2007 09:04 am
Remind me. Utah is the mormon capital, right? How does that affect the state legislation?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2007 09:10 am
Utah is a state, of which Salt Lake City is the capital. Yes, however, it is correct that it is the home of the Mormon hierarchy.
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2007 11:44 pm
This is a facinating subject. BTW, I think Los Angeles is bit too red for me to believe...lol.

Seriously though, this is just facinating. I'm personally surprized by the distribution, and I really don't hold it in question. The sad thing is that the same survey could have asked a followup question or something perhaps to extrapolate more information for us.

I would have asked something like: "Do your religious beliefs affect your voting?"

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Coolwhip
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2007 05:12 am
There was never a survey, as I understood it. The people who made this graph simply asked the 149 most numerous religions in the country to account for how many members there were in their 'fraction'.
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xingu
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2007 05:42 am
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Quotations:
"The proportion of the [American] population that can be classified as Christian has declined from 86% in 1990 to 77% in 2001." ARIS Study. 4

" 'We the people' of the United States now form the most profusely religious nation on earth." Diana Eck. 1

George Barna of The Barna Group: "There does not seem to be revival taking place in America. Whether that is measured by church attendance, born again status, or theological purity, the statistics simply do not reflect a surge of any noticeable proportions." George Barna. 2

"...evangelicals remain just 7% of the adult population. That number has not changed since the Barna Group began measuring the size of the evangelical public in 1994....less than one out of five born again adults (18%) meet the evangelical criteria." (N = 1003; margin of error = ±3.2%). 13

"...the number of Protestants soon will slip below 50 percent of the nation's population." National Opinion Research Center's General Social Survey, 2004.

The shift away from Christianity and other organized religions:
The United States appears to be going through an unprecedented change in religious practices. Large numbers of American adults are disaffiliating themselves from Christianity and from other organized religions. Since World War II, this process had been observed in other countries, like the U.K., other European countries, Australia, Canada, and New Zealand. But, until recently, affiliation with Christianity had been at a high level -- about 87% -- and stable in the U.S.

Polling data from the 2001 ARIS study, described below, indicate that:

81% of American adults identify themselves with a specific religion: 76.5% (159 million) of Americans identify themselves as Christian. This is a major slide from 86.2% in 1990. Identification with Christianity has suffered a loss of 9.7 percentage points in 11 years -- about 0.9 percentage points per year. This decline is identical to that observed in Canada between 1981 and 2001. If this trend has continued, then: at the present time (2007-MAY), only 71% of American adults consider themselves Christians.

The percentage will dip below 70% in 2008.

By about the year 2042, non-Christians will outnumber the Christians in the U.S.

52% of Americans identified themselves as Protestant.
24.5% are Roman Catholic.
1.3% are Jewish.
0.5% are Muslim, followers of Islam.

The fastest growing religion (in terms of percentage) is Wicca -- a Neopagan religion that is sometimes referred to as Witchcraft. Numbers of adherents went from 8,000 in 1990 to 134,000 in 2001. Their numbers of adherents are doubling about every 30 months. 4,5 Wiccans in Australia have a very similar growth pattern, from fewer than 2,000 in 1996 to 9,000 in 2001. 10 In Canada, Wiccans and other Neopagans showed the greatest percentage growth of any faith group. They totaled 21,080 members in 1991, an increase of 281% from 1990.

14.1% do not follow any organized religion. This is an unusually rapid increase -- almost a doubling -- from only 8% in 1990. There are more Americans who say they are not affiliated with any organized religion than there are Episcopalians, Methodists, and Lutherans taken together. 6

The unaffiliated vary from a low of 3% in North Dakota to 25% in Washington State. "The six states with the highest percentage of people saying they have no religion are all Western states, with the exception of Vermont at 22%." 6

A USA Today/Gallup Poll in 2002-JAN showed that almost half of American adults appear to be alienated from organized religion. If current trends continue, most adults will not call themselves religious within a few years. Results include:

About 50% consider themselves religious (down from 54% in 1999-DEC)
About 33% consider themselves "spiritual but not religious" (up from 30%)
About 10% regard themselves as neither spiritual or religious. 6

The U.S. losing its Protestant majority?:
Prior to 1492, the entire population of what was to become the United States of America and Canada followed about 500 forms of Native American Spirituality. With the influx of immigrants from Europe and the genocide of the native population, the U.S. became predominately Protestant Christian by the time of the Revolutionary War. The percentage of Protestants in the U.S. has been diluted because of:

Immigration from Roman Catholic countries,
More recent immigration from the Middle East and Asia, and
The rise in numbers of Agnostics, Atheists, Humanists and other non-theists.

From 1972 to 1993, the General Social Survey of the National Opinion Research Center found that Protestants constituted about 63% of the population. This declined to 52% in 2002. Protestants are believed to have slipped to a minority position between 2004 and 2006. 11

"Respondents were defined as Protestant if they said they were members of a Protestant denomination, such as Episcopal Church or Southern Baptist Convention. The category included members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and members of independent Protestant churches."

However, the data may be deceiving. Some subjects simply reported themselves as "Christians" and were not counted as Protestants since they were not affiliated with a Protestant denomination. 12

About people who walk away from organized religion:
Rodney Stark, a professor of sociology at the University of Washington and a co-author of "Acts of Faith: Explaining the Human Side of Religion" commented:

"People who believe in God ?- and they do ?- who pray ?- and they do ?- are not secular, they are just unchurched. They've never been to church and, in many cases, their parents didn't go either."

Mark Galli, managing editor of the Evangelical magazine Christianity Today, said:

"It's a cliché now to call institutional religion 'oppressive, patriarchal, out of date and out of touch.' So what else is new? I feel sorry for those people who don't think there's anything greater than themselves. It must feel like a lonely and frightening world for them. Lone-ranger spirituality is not conducive to taking us to the depths God designed us to go. It leaves out the communal dimension of faith. If you leave out the irritations, frustrations and joy that community entails, you miss something about God."

About religious data:
Reliable religious information is hard to come by.

Some religions count every person that has been baptized into the denomination as a member. Many individuals change their religion later in life and thus may be double or triple-counted.

Other religions have no accurate accounting system. For example, Wiccans and other Neopagans are almost completely decentralized; probably half are solitary practitioners who do not belong to a coven. Estimates of their total number in the U.S. vary over a 20:1 ratio.
Some religions, like Christian Science and the Church of Satan have a policy of not releasing membership statistics to the public.

Some faith groups count only confirmed, baptized or initiated members; others count total adherents. Some count only adults; others include children.

There is an enormous range of estimates of the number of Muslims in the U.S. The ARIS study in 2001, described below, estimates "a national total population, including children, of up to 2.8 million." However, the Council on American-Islamic Relations states that "There are an estimated 7 million Muslims in America."

Many U.S. sources of religious information include the major religions -- Christianity, Islam, Judaism -- and many of their denominations or sub-divisions. But they often ignore what might be called "underground" religions. These are religions that often keep a very low profile to avoid conflict attacks from an uninformed public -- religions like Santeria, Vodun, and Wicca.

Many sources also ignore an amorphous group who may variously describe themselves as Agnostics, Atheists, Ethical Culturalists, Freethinkers, Humanists, or Secularists. In addition, there are also the "none of the aboves" -- individuals who may believe in God and may follow the Golden Rule, but regard themselves as not being part of any organized religious group.

Although the Canadian census does collect religious information from its citizens, the U.S. decennial census does not. Fortunately, the The Graduate Center of the City University of New York has conducted two major surveys in recent years which fill in many of the gaps.


http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_prac2.htm
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xingu
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2007 05:46 am
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Unchurched Page Tools

You have opened the research archive about the unchurched. The statistics and analysis in this archive come from national surveys conducted by Barna Research.

For more information about the unchurched, be sure to check out the related resources and news releases featured on this page. Also, watch for new information to be added to this archive in the months to come.

Definition:
The following is how we define an unchurched adult for our research: an adult (18 or older) who has not attended a Christian church service within the past six months, not including a holiday service (such as Easter or Christmas) or a special event at a church (such as a wedding or funeral).

How Many?
There has been a 92% increase in the number of unchurched Americans in the last thirteen years. In 1991 there were 39 million unchurched Americans compared with 75 million currently. (2004)
Who?

Although they comprise slightly less than half of the national population, men constitute 55% of the unchurched. (2006)

The average unchurched person is 41, which is younger than the national norm of 45. (2006)

One-fifth of American adults (21%) are single-never-married, whereas nearly one-half of the unchurched fit that definition (48%). (2006)

The highest concentration of unchurched adults is in the West where 43% of adults are unchurched and the Northeast (40%), compared to 28% residents in the South and Midwest who are unchurched. (2006)

Spiritual Commitment
More than three out of five (62%) unchurched adults consider themselves to be Christian. (2006)

44% claim they have made a personal commitment to Jesus Christ that is still important in their life today. (2006)

In a typical week, 19% of unchurched people read the bible compared to 47% of all adults who do so. (2006)

In a typical week, 66% of unchurched people pray compared to 84% of all adults who do so. (2006)

Three-fifths (61%) of the churched population has accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, compared with one out of every five unchurched adults (21%) who has done so. (2006)

Beliefs
64% of the unchurched say that Satan is not a living being but is a symbol of evil. (2006)

63% of unchurched adults state that a good person can earn his or her way into Heaven. (2006)

Slightly less than half (48%) of the unchurched define God as the perfect, all-powerful, all-knowing Creator of the universe who continues to rule His creation today. (2006)

51% of the unchurched assert that when Jesus Christ lived on earth, He committed sins. (2006)

27% of the unchurched firmly believe that the Bible is totally accurate in all that it teaches. (2006)

http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Page=Topic&TopicID=38
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ricksang
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2007 02:35 pm
That survey has got to be wrong. I thought Mississippi would be covered in dark red? I live in Mississippi and the people here live for church. Shoot, the first time they meet you, they ask you what church you attend. I go to a Baptist College, not by choice, but by convenience. We have two more Christian colleges just in the Jackson area. Gosh, I want to move from the South.
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xingu
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2007 02:48 pm
This is a survey of 149 religions. States like Mississippi have a lot of independent Baptist churches that would not be in the 149 churches included in this survey.

I initially was surprised by the lack of color in the south but you have to look at the religion. In ND and SD I believe the predominate religion is Luthern and Catholic so you'd expect an accurate count.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2007 02:52 pm
ricksang wrote:
Gosh, I want to move from the South.


First, the grass on the other side of the hill only looks greener. Additionally, there are religious freaks in the North as well as in the South; in the West, there are just plain freaks, and they're everywhere.
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ricksang
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2007 08:09 pm
Well, I was also thinking of the humid weather too!!!! lol.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jul, 2007 08:44 am
Head for New Mexico or Arizona, then. Still plenty of freaks, religious and otherwise--but with the low population density, you'll be able to avoid them--and the climate is very dry.
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ricksang
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jul, 2007 09:08 am
Yeah, our goal is Arizona or out west somewhere. The thing is, I am in school for Interior Design. I want to practice historical preservation. Wonder if they have many historical sites that need to be restored out there???!!!!
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jul, 2007 09:11 am
There are probably a lot more of what pass for historical sites in New Mexico than in Arizona--but most of them are being exploited on a regular basis already, i don't know that you'd find restoration or preservation work there--but it would be worth the effort to find out. You'd probably do better in California--although, of course, the freak population density there is high.
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ricksang
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jul, 2007 07:20 pm
Lol!! And the housing market is soooo high there.
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