Reasons for Iraq War: Bush or Cheney?

Neither the President nor Vice-President are responsible for this war. The responsible party is the Radical Islamic Movement determined upon the destruction of the infidel West.

Neither the President nor Vice-President are responsible for this war. The responsible party is the Radical Islamic Movement determined upon the destruction of the infidel West. Their attacks on the United States and the West starting back in the 1990's culminated in the attacks of 9-11. ... Put the blame for this war where it belongs, on a group of radical Muslims who seek total political power by establishment of a world-wide Theocracy based on obsolete 7th century dogma.

Neither the President nor Vice-President are responsible for this war.

Neither the President nor Vice-President are responsible for this war. The responsible party is the Radical Islamic Movement determined upon the destruction of the infidel West. Their attacks on the United States and the West starting back in the 1990's culminated in the attacks of 9-11.

Saddam's Iraq, located in the geopolitical center of the Middle East, had been a destabilizing element for over a decade. He had attacked neighboring states and used chemical weapons on civilian populations. He spent a lot of his resources preparing for war, and sponsored terrorist attacks against Israel. Saddam was in violation of many cease-fire agreements over many years, and he had attacked U.S. aircraft in "no-fly" zones. He had masterminded an attempt to assassinate a U.S. President. Saddam fostered the belief that he was again building a large arsenal of forbidden weapons, and the world, not just President Bush, believed him. Saddam's long time efforts to obtain nuclear weapons was well-known and documented, though the evidence presented at the UN was faulty. Saddam was continuing to torture and murder Iraqi citizens who were helpless without outside assistance. Reports of Radical Islamic Movement activities in Iraq were believed to be taking place, but almost impossible to prove to the world. Saddam had a number of chances to avoid being removed from power, but chose instead to step up the rhetoric.

Put the blame for this war where it belongs, on a group of radical Muslims who seek total political power by establishment of a world-wide Theocracy based on obsolete 7th century dogma.

Asherman wrote:

Neither the President nor Vice-President are responsible for this war.

Right. The leaders of the most powerful nation in the world are completely absolved of all responsibility for a war of choice against a nation that was no threat to us but rather an enemy of the people who attacked us. Not their fault that what had been a secular, unified state in the middle east is now a destabilized, fragmented, terrorist haven. No, nothing is our fault. Ever. We are perfect angels of mercy in the world and our leaders are the perfect embodiment of good fighting evil and protecting us from the ultra scary muslim fanatics. Look what those bad people made us do.

The responsible party is the Radical Islamic Movement determined upon the destruction of the infidel West.

Saddam's Iraq, located in the geopolitical center of the Middle East, had been a destabilizing element for over a decade.

He had attacked neighboring states and used chemical weapons on civilian populations.

He spent a lot of his resources preparing for war . . .

. . . and sponsored terrorist attacks against Israel.

Saddam was in violation of many cease-fire agreements over many years, and he had attacked U.S. aircraft in "no-fly" zones.

He had masterminded an attempt to assassinate a U.S. President.

Saddam fostered the belief that he was again building a large arsenal of forbidden weapons, and the world, not just President Bush, believed him.

"Saddam's long time efforts to obtain nuclear weapons was well-known and documented, though the evidence presented at the UN was faulty.

Saddam was continuing to torture and murder Iraqi citizens who were helpless without outside assistance.

Reports of Radical Islamic Movement activities in Iraq were believed to be taking place, but almost impossible to prove to the world.

Saddam had a number of chances to avoid being removed from power, but chose instead to step up the rhetoric.

FreeDuck wrote:

Asherman wrote:

Neither the President nor Vice-President are responsible for this war.

Right. The leaders of the most powerful nation in the world are completely absolved of all responsibility for a war of choice against a nation that was no threat to us but rather an enemy of the people who attacked us. Not their fault that what had been a secular, unified state in the middle east is now a destabilized, fragmented, terrorist haven. No, nothing is our fault. Ever. We are perfect angels of mercy in the world and our leaders are the perfect embodiment of good fighting evil and protecting us from the ultra scary muslim fanatics. Look what those bad people made us do.

Did you just say that Iraq was a "secular, unified state"? And people suggest Asherman's post was bullshit?

McGentrix wrote:

FreeDuck wrote:

Asherman wrote:

Neither the President nor Vice-President are responsible for this war.

Right. The leaders of the most powerful nation in the world are completely absolved of all responsibility for a war of choice against a nation that was no threat to us but rather an enemy of the people who attacked us. Not their fault that what had been a secular, unified state in the middle east is now a destabilized, fragmented, terrorist haven. No, nothing is our fault. Ever. We are perfect angels of mercy in the world and our leaders are the perfect embodiment of good fighting evil and protecting us from the ultra scary muslim fanatics. Look what those bad people made us do.

Did you just say that Iraq was a "secular, unified state"? And people suggest Asherman's post was bullshit?

Because it isn't one now doesn't mean it wasn't one before. Were people killing each other and expelling each other from neighborhoods based on their brand of religion before we invaded? Was the state at risk for civil war before we invaded? Did religious leaders in Iraq have any kind of political pull before we invaded? What's your cause for suggesting what I said is bullshit?