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I just got off the phone with a little birdie I know who lives in DC who sez the rumor on the street is that ol Shooter, that rascal Cheney, is on the DC Madam list from his days back at Halliburton. So stay tuned.

Now, I don't know if that is true, but I do know who is:

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Sen. Vitter on D.C. madam list
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This was a very serious sin in my past for which I am, of course, completely responsible. Several years ago, I asked for and received forgiveness from God and my wife in confession and marriage counseling. Out of respect for my family, I will keep my discussion of the matter there-with God and them. But I certainly offer my deep and sincere apologies to all I have disappointed and let down in any way.

In 2005, Vitter attacked "the Hollywood left" for "redefining the most basic institution in human history." July 9, 2007 10:47 pm | Comment (493)

Who else will show up? Place yer bets!

Cycloptichorn

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I wonder if Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi used the same gigolo?

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No matter what the list contains, it will be held to a double standard. Liberals on the list will be given a pass, because they are liberals who support sexual diversity. Conservatives on the list will be crucified by the left as hypocrites.

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I suppose it would amuse me if true, but the reasons I have trouble with Cheney don't relate to this kind of matter.

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Who cares?

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cjhsa said:

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No matter what the list contains, it will be held to a double standard. Liberals on the list will be given a pass, because they are liberals who support sexual diversity. Conservatives on the list will be crucified by the left as hypocrites.

Maybe it's not so much of a double standard as it is recognition of whether or not someone does or doesn't do what they say they do or believe in.

If someone thinks or says, something, whatever activity it is is "a very serious sin," - especially when talking about other people, never mind him or herself- and then it is discovered that he or she in fact indulges in that behavior- that's the definition of a hypocrite.

If someone (say a liberal) doesn't give a crap if other people tend to their sexual needs as they see fit- and doesn't make an issue of stuffing their morals down another person's throat- yeah- they'll probably be given a pass on the hypocrite label.

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Supporting a lack of morals to begin with doesn't sit well with me. At least some attempt to put on a good face. It reminds me of the grocery store. Some will dress up a bit, put on makeup, whatever. Others show up in curlers and mumus. They both are buying Tampons and Raid, but one looks a lot better than the other.

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Phoenix32890 wrote:

Who cares?

QFT

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cjhsa wrote:

No matter what the list contains, it will be held to a double standard. Liberals on the list will be given a pass, because they are liberals who support sexual diversity. Conservatives on the list will be crucified by the left as hypocrites.

So, are we to assume that you never complained about Clinton's blow job?

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cjhsa wrote:

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Supporting a lack of morals to begin with doesn't sit well with me. At least some attempt to put on a good face. It reminds me of the grocery store. Some will dress up a bit, put on makeup, whatever. Others show up in curlers and mumus. They both are buying Tampons and Raid, but one looks a lot better than the other.

What? You must go to different grocery stores than I do- or maybe you're more adept at looking at and judging people by their outward appearance.

But you're making my point better than I could have done myself. One may "look a lot better than the other" by "putting on a good face"- but if, in the end, that's all it is- it's deceitful and meaningless, and ultimately, hypocritical.

What about if I care more about what someone does with his or her trash than what they do in the privacy of his or her own bedroom? Would you consider that a lack of morals? I just consider that a differing set of morals or priorities. The difference between politically liberal and conservative folk is not that either set is lacking morals- liberals just allow that other folks may have a different set of morals, while conservatives insist that everyone have exactly the same ones they do, and if they don't say, "They don't have any morals."

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In a move that will certainly set into motion hundreds of bloggers and journalists eager to unearth the next Washington sex scandal, Deborah Jeane Palfrey, aka the "DC Madam," has posted 13 years worth of phone records on her website Monday afternoon. The records cover Palfrey's time as head of "Pamela Martin & Associates," a Washington, D.C.-based escort service. As Yeas & Nays noted last week, U.S. District Judge Gladys Kessler recently lifted the temporary restraining order prohibiting Deborah Jeane Palfrey from releasing those telephone records.

During an interview with Yeas & Nays last Thursday, Palfrey indicated that she had "every intention" of releasing her records to the public, but the move to post them on her website so quickly was not anticipated by many.

"I have reason to believe the disk - containing a full set of the telephone records for the 13 year operational history of 'Pamela Martin & Associates' - already has been pirated," writes Palfrey. "Despite our very best intentions to maintain control of the information, our efforts seemingly have been for naught. I am concerned about manipulation of the database with false and misleading information. Even though such falsifications can be refuted in time by comparing an altered copy with the original, my attorney, Mr. Sibley and I fear that in the intervening time period, considerable damage can and will be done to the reputations of individual and entities with no connection to the business. Additionally, the overall validity of the records' contents will be diminished when one false accusation after another begins to manifest. Therefore, to thwart any possible distorted version and to ensure the integrity of the information, the records - in their entirety -- are available for downloading."

Palfrey doesn't think that sorting through the information will be easy. "It will take a small army of people skilled in computer and phone technology, investigation as well as factual knowledge regarding the significance OR non-significance of identified persons. No one individual or entity will be able to connect all of the dots. The overall endeavor easily could take many months, if not years to research and report conscientiously."

In the meantime, Washington will be nervously waiting...

http://www.examiner.com/blogs/Yeas_and_Nays/2007/7/9/DC-Madam-Posts-Phone-Records-Online

Oh, I'll bet there are more than a few "nervously waiting".

Tried the web site, but not able to get in for some "unknown reason"!

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http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003639.php

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Senator John Fessed Up
By Paul Kiel - July 10, 2007, 11:29 AM

It wasn't immediately apparent from the stories yesterday, but Sen. David Vitter (R-LA) showed great faith in the Fourth Estate yesterday, admitting to being a customer of the D.C. madam as a sort of preemptive measure. The madam, Deborah Jeane Palfrey, released her business' phone records to the press last week and uploaded the records to her website (currently down) yesterday. Apparently Vitter thought it was just a matter of time before some muckraker found him out.

Vitter's statement only admits obliquely that Vitter's number was on one of Palfrey's old lists. The AP's New Orleans' bureau apparently received the statement yesterday, and then spent some time trying to confirm its authenticity. "Vitter's spokesman, Joel Digrado, confirmed the statement Monday evening in an e-mail to The Associated Press," according to an early version of the wire story.

No one seems to know when (or how often) Vitter used the service; all his statement says is that it was "prior to his running for the U.S. Senate" in 2004. He'd been a congressman since 1999, and Palfrey's records date back to 1996. The AP still hadn't seen the records as of last night, since reporters were "unable to connect to Palfrey's website."

The records contain thousands upon thousands of numbers without names. Most of the recent records, dating from 2002 to 2006, were released to ABC News back in March; a team of researchers set to matching the numbers to names. Jeff Schneider, a spokesman for ABC News, said that they had not found Vitter's number in those records. "With the release of a full ten years of records, it seems clear that his number came up in one of the records we did not have access to," he told me.

As for now, the race is on for who can pile up the most vividly hypocritical quote from the family values (or as he put it, "Louisiana values") conservative. In the running: Sen. Vitter maligning the "Hollywood left" for violating the "sanctity of marriage," and Vitter arguing that President Clinton should step down for his extramarital affair (Vitter, by the by, replaced Rep. Bob Livingston (R-LA) after the speaker was forced to step down because of an affair). There are, you can be sure, many more. Glenn Greenwald has a rundown here.

Cycloptichorn

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aidan wrote:

What? You must go to different grocery stores than I do- or maybe you're more adept at looking at and judging people by their outward appearance.

I'm profiling. You should be too.

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Setanta wrote:

So, are we to assume that you never complained about Clinton's blow job?

I only complained about the venue, the lies, and the choice of fat ugly broad whose mug we had to look at every day for years afterwards.

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cjhsa wrote:

aidan wrote:

What? You must go to different grocery stores than I do- or maybe you're more adept at looking at and judging people by their outward appearance.

I'm profiling. You should be too.

Why? What am I missing? Are you one of those paranoid Americans Danish was talking about on that other thread?

But seriously- these guys set themselves up for this stuff. My question is why on god's green earth would you make such an issue of speaking out so vociferously against something that you KNOW you have done in the past, and which you should be smart enough to know WILL come back to bite you?

I think it's a form of mental illness myself (just like you think liberalism is). Seriously, I think these people are so narcisistic and removed from reality that they honestly don't believe that the same standards or rules of karma or whatever laws govern the universe for everyone else will hold true for them. Somehow, someway, they believe they'll get away with this ****...

And maybe they did all this stuff before they got the votes and the power, etc. But there's a little thing called humility and common sense that would bid one hold their tongue when the specific issue or behavior they themselves had transgressed over arose, so at least people wouldn't be able to then point their fingers and say, "You SAID this, but you yourself DID that."

Because it always does come out....

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A commendably low-life response, and nothing less than we expect from you. If it weren't a matter of one of the most despicable members at this site, i'd be happy to conduct a search of your posts to find out if you're lying or not. But you're not worth the expenditure of time and energy.

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If Set thinks I'm despicable, I must be doing more than a few things right.

And I mean right.

It hardly matters what I post any longer, the libs just throw personal insults and attacks at me. It's so fu--ing lame. And they are so boring.

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cjhsa wrote:

If Set thinks I'm despicable, I must be doing more than a few things right.

And I mean right.

It hardly matters what I post any longer, the libs just throw personal insults and attacks at me. It's so fu--ing lame. And they are so boring.

And yet, you don't piss off?

What's keepin ya?

Cycloptichorn

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Just in case you all forgot.

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Our media showed a different pic of Madam DC - all done by liberals, I suppose.

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