Chris Mathews, Idiot.. Of wimpy pundits fawning over he-men.

Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2007 03:53 pm

Chris Matthews caused some eyes to roll (and some predictable heads to explode) last week when, musing on the "sex appeal" of Fred Thompson, he asked:

    Can you smell the English leather on this guy, the Aqua Velva, the sort of mature man's shaving cream, or whatever, you know, after he shaved? Do you smell that sort of -- a little bit of cigar smoke?


Last week, in response to Michael Moore's request that Thompson debate him over health care, Thompson -- showing what a tough guy he really is -- filmed a forty-second You Tube video where he smoked a cigar and told Moore to check into a mental hospital. Chris Matthews had Mark Halperin on his show [..] to giggle like sixth-grade boys high-fiving each other [over] the cool kid they are desperate to be near [..]:

    MATTHEWS: Wait till you catch this. . . . Mark Halperin, is Thomas' cigar-chomping chide a sign that he's serious about getting in this race? HALPERIN: Chris, I've got to see your, "Ha ha!" MATTHEWS: I have to tell you, Mark, it's for real. I can't fake it. But let me ask you this... HALPERIN: I agree. MATTHEWS: Is this the kind of winning performance that the avuncular Fred Thompson needs to win this thing? HALPERIN: I echo your "Ha ha." Mega "ha ha" to you, Chris. Because that is exactly what this kind of campaign is going to have to be. [..] That kind of video gets the net roots totally in a lather. They hate Michael Moore. They like the jab. They like the cigar. It's a total winner. [..] MATTHEWS: He's also brilliant, because the attack from a defensive position is one of the smartest moves in politics. There you go again. He posed as if he was defending himself against Michael Moore and took his head off.

Chewing on a cigar in front of a camera and telling someone to go to a mental hospital is, to them, what makes someone a "tough guy" -- "aggressive" and "avuncular." And the discussion which Fineman and Matthews had about Giuliani last night, in exactly the same way, was so creepy that it bordered on pornographic:

    FINEMAN: I mean, "commanding daddy" is not the phrase I would use because "daddy" implies some generosity of spirit. MATTHEWS: Yes. FINEMAN: What's appealing about Rudy Giuliani is not the generous side, what's appealing about him is the tough cop side. MATTHEWS: Right. You just wait until daddy gets home. FINEMAN: Yes, that part... MATTHEWS: That Daddy. FINEMAN: ... of the daddy. It's the tough cop side, so... MATTHEWS: Yes. Yes.


yesterday I happened to listen to Mike Barnicle interviewing Chris Matthews of Hardball fame. Matthews suffers from a Hillary-fixation, but the Barnicle interview revealed something more deeply awry in his psyche. After all the matey-introductions about being alumni from the same university and so on, Barnicle asked Matthews what he thought about the candidacy of Fred Thompson. Matthews was very excited, pointing out that Thompson was the sort of guy who in the 1950s would have come home and said: "Would somebody get my slippers." A perfect "tonal alternative," Matthews continued, to the "screeching fingers on the blackmail--er--blackboard, Hillary." Tonal alternative? As in, feminist vs. putting women back to their "proper places"?

Matthews went on to bemoan how every hour now is the International Year of the Woman. He also implied that it is the less-educated women who like Hillary. The more educated and neurotic (yes, that's the word he used) people don't care for her as much.

The rest of the Matthews interview is fun, too. He goes on for some time about whether Al Gore has had cosmetic surgery or not, making it very clear that he wouldn't be able to tell himself, what with being a he-man, but that his female producers are experts at spotting Botox and such and could tell. He also mentioned that Gore is fat. I thought that only women are supposed to gossip about looks. Hmmm.


As Glenn Greenwald comments:

What can even be said about that? And nobody really seems to find this odd or disturbing or objectionable at all -- that night after night, one of the featured "journalists" of a major news network goes on television and, with some of our most prestigious journalists assembled with him, speaks admiringly about the smells and arousing masculinity and the "daddy" qualities of various political officials, and that this metric is, more or less, the full extent of his political analysis.
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Bi-Polar Bear
Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2007 04:47 pm
this thompson guy is a piece of ****..... therfore he will be the piece of **** repubs piece of **** candidate....
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2007 04:53 pm
And your piece of **** next President, dont forget that, too

Right now, that seems about as concise a summary of it to me as you can have, yeah

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Reply Fri 4 Apr, 2008 07:37 pm
Joe Scarborough - as bad as Chris Matthews.

Scarborough on Obama's "dainty" bowling performance: "Americans want their president, if it's a man, to be a real man"

Summary: On Morning Joe, Joe Scarborough and Willie Geist repeatedly mocked Sen. Barack Obama's bowling performance -- which Scarborough called "dainty" -- at a campaign stop in Pennsylvania.

Deriding Obama's score, Scarborough said: "You know Willie, the thing is, Americans want their president, if it's a man, to be a real man." He added, "You get 150, you're a man, or a good woman," to which Geist replied, "Out of my president, I want a 150, at least."

After guest Harold Ford Jr. said that Obama's bowling showed a "humble" and "human" side to him, Scarborough replied, "A very human side? A prissy side."

Bonus stupidity from the transcript:

GEIST: If you're the president, you want -- you don't want them to have to put those bumpers in the gutters.


SCARBOROUGH: I've got a feeling he [..] didn't go bowling in Cambridge that much. That's a guy that's been studying a lot of -- reading a lot of books.

No friggin' kidding.

This is what passes for political commentary? Shocked

At least eventually Scarborough was shut up:

FORD: And I'd throw him a pass on you, too. I've seen you. I think he could probably take you down the sideline on a post route. [..]

SCARBOROUGH: Wait, wait. I'm sorry? You talking football now? [..]

I've got 5 yards. [..]

I've got 5 yards, bump and run. He's not going down the field.

FORD: Oh, Joe.

SCARBOROUGH: You know what my nickname was in college?

BRZEZINSKI: Oh, Lord, help me.

SCARBOROUGH: The "Round Mound of Rebound." On the basketball court, you just go low and lean.

BRZEZINSKI: Yeah, well, 15 million Big Macs later, I don't think that name applies, honey. [...]

I guess that rules Scarborough out for the Presidency then. Not his stupidity: but that he wouldnt be able to stop a guy on a football pitch.
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Reply Fri 4 Apr, 2008 08:45 pm
Ah... but good old Chris Matthews, he of the man-crushes, got in on the act too, with an "ethnic" reference.

Ezra Klein recounts:


Samhita catches Chris Matthews saying, "this gets very ethnic, but the fact that [Obama is] good at basketball doesn't surprise anybody, but the fact that he's that terrible at bowling does make you wonder."

I'd sort of love for him to finish that sentence. What does it make you wonder? What could possibly be the implications of Barack Obama's proficiency at bowling?
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real life
Reply Sat 5 Apr, 2008 12:08 am
Yes, apparently Chris 'Thriller' Matthews looks at things a little different than most.

Chris Matthews got "OBAMA THRILL UP HIS LEG"
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Reply Sat 5 Apr, 2008 08:27 am
Yep - the title of this thread says it all, really.
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Reply Fri 16 Jan, 2009 10:13 am
On Observationalism.com:

Don't be fooled, Chris Matthews is still an asshat.

(I wish there was a size in between normal and the above kind of really-big!)
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