Lady liberty is holding what book in her hand?

No, she would be wearing the rosary as a belt.

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And her flowing robe would be a nun's habit.

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dagmaraka wrote:

Why... I learned quite a bit about the Statue today.

None of it from RexRed, but I've learned anyway.

I have that often Razz

(Not with Rexred, but that I learn a lot from a thread, not for what is in it, but for what I had to look up to respond to it.)

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I will admit a tablet is not the Bible but the law of liberty is the hidden meaning of the statue...

The writing ON the tablet refers to a date when independence and the LAW OF LIBERTY came to America and this liberty was justified by the law of liberty taught in only ONE book... THE BIBLE, namely the new testament... Obviously unknown to all for your self absorbed juvenile prattle rules the day such that you are blinded by any other consideration other than name calling and potty jokes...

Thanks for no help from you all other than Neo who made light of it....

So evidently truth is not your quest but your own political self serving agenda to run this country into the ground with your pagan, atheist, deist, witch, Satan worshiping radical leftist CRAP!

Also It might interest you that you are only making yourselves look bad for posterity sake, when future generations read this and realize YOU were on the wrong side of the fence your name will be synonymous with traitors and thievs... Should make you feel proud, Benedict Arnold... (cynical)

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nimh wrote:

kickycan wrote:
That is so not a book. What kind of book has a weird cut-out design on the top corners like that?

Perhaps it's a pop-up book..

Maybe this one?

http://www.tomie.com/images/spotlight_on/guadalupe/book_bible_stories200.jpg

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RexRed wrote:

Diest TKO wrote:
Topic closed. In summary...

RexRed wrote:

Blah blah blah... lies.

others wrote:

no. Proof.

RexRed wrote:

how dare you insult me... more lies.

others wrote:

summary of proof.

RexRed wrote:

rhetoric ad naseum.

And were was your proof that the book in her hand does not represent the Bible considering it is the most popular book of all time? And it is the statue adorning the largest city of the largest predominantly Christian country the world?

You have none...

Besides the fact that the HOLY BIBLE is at the center of the Masonic lodge??

Closure...

Trying hard to change your stance now eh Rex? Now the tablet represents the bible, but is not actually the bible. What doeas New York being the largest city mean? If it were meant to be a symbol of our country why not put it at our capitol?

Let's not forget that predominately Christian is due to things like the Chinese immigaration act of 1885. Had it not been in place America would have been pmostly Chinese anf most likely not predominantly Christian.

If the Bible is at the center of the masons, why is the masonic order always at ends with the catholic church?

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Below is detailed what the Masons believe about their source of authority, God, Jesus Christ, sin, and salvation and future life:

1. Source of Authority. Masons refer to the Bible as the "Volume of the Sacred Law" (V.S.L.), and it is considered an indispensable part of what is called "the furniture" in a Masonic Lodge. But the Bible is used only in a so-called "Christian" lodge -- the Hebrew Pentateuch is used in a Hebrew lodge, the Koran in a Mohammedan lodge, the Vedas in a Brahmin lodge, etc. Jim Shaw, a former 33rd degree Mason, says that Masonry is not based on the Bible (referred to as "The Great Light"), but on the Kabala (Cabala), a medieval book of mysticism and magic. Masonic authority Henry Wilson Coil also admits that the Kabala's teachings can be seen in some of the mystical and philosophical degrees of Masonry. Albert Pike (see next), the man responsible for virtually rewriting the Scottish Rite degrees into their present form, said that the Masonic "search after light" leads directly back to the Kabala, the ultimate source of Masonic beliefs (Morals and Dogma). [HJB]

It seems that the Bible is welcome in the world of masons, but is not what masonry is built on.

Now. Stop lying.

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nimh wrote:

dagmaraka wrote:
Why... I learned quite a bit about the Statue today.

None of it from RexRed, but I've learned anyway.

I have that often

(Not with Rexred, but that I learn a lot from a thread, not for what is in it, but for what I had to look up to respond to it.)

What you learned about the law of liberty you learned from me today.

For it is doubtful you knew it on your own... Or God forbid from reading the Bible...

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RexRed wrote:

I will admit a tablet is not the Bible but the law of liberty is the hidden meaning of the statue...

Not according to those who made it, whose notes we have..

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nimh wrote:

RexRed wrote:
I will admit a tablet is not the Bible but the law of liberty is the hidden meaning of the statue...

Not according to those who made it, whose notes we have..

I have said my peace, take it or leave it.

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RexRed, I must say I have learned very little from you, because you speak in this dogma-speak that makes little to no sense, just throwing around passages from the Bible, and Capitalized Expressions that are supposed to look more authoritative or something.

And I have read the Bible. I learned a thing or two from it. But not from you.

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RexRed wrote:

I will admit a tablet is not the Bible

And it just took you 25 pages and like a dozen people to point it out to you!

That's awesome!

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Rex isn't lying, he actually believes what he says to be true.

It's not true, it's not even a cogent interpretation of Christian thought, but that doesn't stop him from repeating it.

What he is is deluded, mis-informed, ill-read and grossly ignorant, but he is not, generally speaking and without regard to any particular event, a liar.

Joe(I wonder what color the sky is on his planet?)Nation

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old europe wrote:

RexRed wrote:
I will admit a tablet is not the Bible

And it just took you 25 pages and like a dozen people to point it out to you!

That's awesome!

Progress!

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RexRed wrote:

So evidently truth is not your quest but your own political self serving agenda to run this country into the ground with your pagan, atheist, deist, witch, Satan worshiping radical leftist CRAP!

You're the one who came with an agenda. anyway it's the Radical Right that threatens this country. The radicals on the left just get ingnored. The Left is good at isolating itself from it's most extreme left neighbor, it is the right that embraces their most extreme candidates.

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Also It might interest you that you are only making yourselves look bad for posterity sake, when future generations read this and realize YOU were on the wrong side of the fence your name will be synonymous with traitors and thievs... Should make you feel proud, Benedict Arnold...

I'm sure that this is your wish. The truth is, that if I'm standing on any side of a fance it will be an internment camp like my grandparents were in, and it won't be because of any liberal. It will be because of the fearful cowards on the right.

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Joe Nation wrote:

Rex isn't lying, he actually believes what he says to be true.

It's not true, it's not even a cogent interpretation of Christian thought, but that doesn't stop him from repeating it.

What he is is deluded, mis-informed, ill-read and grossly ignorant, but he is not, generally speaking and without regard to any particular event, a liar.

Joe(I wonder what color the sky is on his planet?)Nation

I disagree Joe.

I am a very forgiving individual of the ignorant that have never been presented any idea contrary to there own. It is the fool that has had the opportunity (scuh as REX) that troubles me. If you are presented with fact, you now have the burden of that fct.

To continue to repeat his mantra is to lie.

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His biggest mis-statement, at least in this thread, is the idea that the Law of Liberty -what that is he hasn't defined- was initially and solely a Biblical idea.

The Romans understood Liberty so well they had a goddess in charge of it.

Joe(poor guy rex, such a limited world he resides in)Nation

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old europe wrote:

RexRed wrote:
I will admit a tablet is not the Bible

And it just took you 25 pages and like a dozen people to point it out to you!

That's awesome!

And it took me 25 pages to get the law of liberty through to you all...

Laws are written on tablets... liberty is the statue's name... (law of liberty)

And where does the law of liberty come from? A solitary book, the Bible...

So the tablet represents the book because the rest the statue's symbolism comes from the very same book ALSO.

What does the torch represent, what does the crown with windows represent, what does the star on her head represent, what were the chains that were broken (led captivity captive)? Why was she dressed in Greek attire rather than modern clothing of the colonists of the day if it related to emancipation from Engalnd? Who's shoes were sandals for her toes are exposed and uncovered. Why does she face east and toward Greece? Well I guess you will have to look in the Bible to find the answers to these and many other questions relating to her design and form. Why was Babylonian "tower" used as a pedestal? The builders do NOT reveal the mystery of her secrets.

Maybe you might read these things in the "tablet" she is holding and find out?

Why was the date so important does it relate to the same thing that happened in the first century when time became reckoned at the year "zero"? BC/AD

Why did the law of liberty change the reckoning of time in the first century?

Enough for one day... You have all exhausted me. I look forward to the day when I can carry on a civilized conversation with you all without the digs, insults and adolescent prattle. I pity others who come here and get the very unfriendly welcome you all treat them to. I have seen it and I think it is rude and disgusting. People like Set and Dys and others have set the tone and this forum sucks unless you have a thick skin. I just shrug it off but I have feelings too. But you are all so in love with yourselves I don't expect you to notice or care...

Sleep on it...

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Go just one or two pages back. I went to the trouble to find the sources for why she wore the bloody greek robe, what the chains mean and all... It's not guesswork. There are facts out there, you know. Not everything in this world is the way you want it to be.

And you're back to the bible? Why? You already admitted the tablet has nothing to do with it before... You know what, nevermind. Waste of my time.

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Rex - Go take your angry nap. the idea of lady liberty as opposed to lady honor has nothing to do with the bible. Liberty was chosen as a reference to our country's liberation from the british on July 4 1776. the bible nor Chrisitnity have anything to do with it.

you don't deserve any more explanationas, you have exhausted all the charity you deserve on this topic but listen. there is no need to go any further in this. The designer of the statue was very open about the symbolism. It has nothing to do with your religion.

Tell you what. You can look at the statue and see whatever symbolism you want to see. But you can't tell us, nor can you shout at the grave of the creater of it what is does mean. Let it mean whatever you want to you, that is certainly allowable, but that's all. You have no authority to rewrite history.

You are destined to be wrong.

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RexRed wrote:

the tablet represents the book because the rest the statue's symbolism comes from the very same book ALSO.

What does the torch represent, what does the crown with windows represent, what does the star on her head represent, what were the chains that were broken (led captivity captive)? Why was she dressed in Greek attire rather than modern clothing of the colonists of the day if it related to emancipation from Engalnd? [..] Why does she face east and toward Greece? Well I guess you will have to look in the Bible to find the answers to these and many other questions relating to her design and form. [..] The builders do NOT reveal the mystery of her secrets.

RexRed! Many of these questions were answered, right here, in this thread. And they could be answered because the builders DID leave notes about "the mystery" of their intentions, on all these counts. And none of them had to do with the Bible.

In order of the questions as you ask them, as Dag has told you here,

What does the torch represent?

dagmaraka wrote:

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The torch Lady Liberty holds in her hand lights the path for new people coming to the newly-freed country.

what does the star on her head represent

dagmaraka wrote:

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The spikes on the crown Lady Liberty wears symbolize the seven seas and seven continents of the world.

what were the chains that were broken

dagmaraka wrote:

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The broken chain symbolizes America's newly-won freedom. The Statue of Liberty's left foot is ahead of her right foot, symbolizing her walking away from captivity.

Why was she dressed in Greek attire rather than modern clothing of the colonists of the day if it related to emancipation from Engalnd?

dagmaraka wrote:

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The statue wears a robe of a dignified Greek matron of classical times. She represents the Greek goddess, Libertar.

Why does she face east

dagmaraka wrote:

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Bartholdi decided on this island because ships coming in would have a good view and the statue would welcome the people on board.

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My god, this thread is stupid.... more stupid than any of my idiotic sophmoric threads ever began to think of....

this thread towers above all others for stupidity... I'm envious of this for some reason...

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