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Thinking patterns (and how to minipulate them)

 
 
RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 7 Sep, 2007 09:32 am
Re: What is the most successful way to change unwanted think
hankarin wrote:
Something more powerful that imperfect human thinking would be needed to change it. (Hebrews 4:12; Romans 12:2)


Something powerful within the human thinking equation.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 7 Sep, 2007 09:52 am
Father
It's not time to make a change,
Just relax, take it easy.
You're still young, that's your fault,
There's so much you have to know.
Find a girl, settle down,
If you want you can marry.
Look at me, I am old, but I'm happy.

I was once like you are now, and I know that it's not easy,
To be calm when you've found something going on.
But take your time, think a lot,
Why, think of everything you've got.
For you will still be here tomorrow, but your dreams may not.

Son
How can I try to explain, when I do he turns away again.
It's always been the same, same old story.
From the moment I could talk I was ordered to listen.
Now there's a way and I know that I have to go away.
I know I have to go.

Father
It's not time to make a change,
Just sit down, take it slowly.
You're still young, that's your fault,
There's so much you have to go through.
Find a girl, settle down,
if you want you can marry.
Look at me, I am old, but I'm happy.
(Son-- Away Away Away, I know I have to
Make this decision alone - no)


Son
All the times that I cried, keeping all the things I knew inside,
It's hard, but it's harder to ignore it.
If they were right, I'd agree, but it's them you know not me.
Now there's a way and I know that I have to go away.
I know I have to go.
(Father-- Stay Stay Stay, Why must you go and
make this decision alone?)
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averner
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 12:37 am
vikorr wrote:
In partial answer to the original question :

1. Neuro Linguistic Programming
2. Awareness
- knowing your needs that trigger your thought patterns
- knowing your feelings in regards to the though patterns
- knowing your beliefs/values andmost especially where they come from
- knowing your hopes
- knowing your attachments...etc
3. Asking questions of yourself in the positive (eg 'what can I do to improve' rather than 'why can't I change')
4. Asking friends to help you develop new habits (ie practice in the real world)
5. Setting a task for yourself...and then a new one each time
6. Reading books on the subject (gives you greater awareness, new ideas)
7. Try and tie all the new ideas in together to make a big picture in your mind

Just some thoughts :wink:


After half a year someone gets it! To change your thinking patterns, you must first become aware of them on more than just a superficial level. Yes, you are aware that there's a problem already, but try to pay close attention to it next time you encounter it, so that you become more fully aware.

However, there is more.. now that you are aware, think of your feeling or thinking pattern. Try to feel it.. it's there, isn't it? Or is it? It's just a thought! It is powerless if you realize that YOU decide whether you want to interpret the feeling as suffering, once you are strongly aware of its nature.

As for habits of doing rather than feeling, it is just as easy. Simply become aware of it and don't do it. If you experience a negative feeling because you aren't doing, shift your awareness to that feeling, and do as I suggested in the previous paragraph. All it takes is mindful awareness.


Sorry I'm late folks, I just signed up...
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Kara
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 07:08 pm
Chumly,

Cat Stevens had it right...
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2007 12:43 pm
Kara wrote:
Chumly,

Cat Stevens had it right...


"Had" may be the operative word... hehe
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Kara
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2007 02:03 pm
You're right. He's not Cat Stevens anymore...
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hankarin
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2007 05:57 pm
Re: What is the most successful way to change unwanted think
RexRed wrote:
hankarin wrote:
Something more powerful that imperfect human thinking would be needed to change it. (Hebrews 4:12; Romans 12:2)


Something powerful within the human thinking equation.


The human thinking equation is open to persuasion. Persuasion can have good and/or bad consequences. Depends on who persuades us.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2007 06:28 pm
Re: What is the most successful way to change unwanted think
hankarin wrote:
RexRed wrote:
hankarin wrote:
Something more powerful that imperfect human thinking would be needed to change it. (Hebrews 4:12; Romans 12:2)


Something powerful within the human thinking equation.


The human thinking equation is open to persuasion. Persuasion can have good and/or bad consequences. Depends on who persuades us.



Persuasion must be accompanied by desire...
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hankarin
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2007 06:31 pm
Re: What is the most successful way to change unwanted think
RexRed wrote:
hankarin wrote:
RexRed wrote:
hankarin wrote:
Something more powerful that imperfect human thinking would be needed to change it. (Hebrews 4:12; Romans 12:2)


Something powerful within the human thinking equation.


The human thinking equation is open to persuasion. Persuasion can have good and/or bad consequences. Depends on who persuades us.



Persuasion must be accompanied by desire...


Agreed, most definitely, with similar good or bad consequences.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2007 06:46 pm
Re: What is the most successful way to change unwanted think
hankarin wrote:
RexRed wrote:
hankarin wrote:
RexRed wrote:
hankarin wrote:
Something more powerful that imperfect human thinking would be needed to change it. (Hebrews 4:12; Romans 12:2)


Something powerful within the human thinking equation.


The human thinking equation is open to persuasion. Persuasion can have good and/or bad consequences. Depends on who persuades us.



Persuasion must be accompanied by desire...


Agreed, most definitely, with similar good or bad consequences.



Maybe Freud was right, sex is the motivation for most desire and dreams...
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