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War Under False Pretense

 
 
frolic
 
Reply Sat 19 Jul, 2003 01:28 am
by Thomas R. Eddlem

President Bush was able to play up the uranium issue only by ignoring his own intelligence agencies.

Bush administration officials were recently forced to admit that the president never should have spoken the following 16 words in his January 28th State of the Union address: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.And adding additional information is like adding a foot to Mount Everest.THE NEW AMERICAN
Vol. 19, No. 16 August 11, 2003((Advance Posting)

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PDiddie
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jul, 2003 08:38 am
The White House has made a cottage industry of blaming the FBI and CIA for faulty intelligence. Julian Borger reports in The Guardian that in fact, they weren't even consulting them half the time. Loons like Scooter Libby and Newt Gingrich - and Dick Cheney - were running the show. Absolutely unbelievable.


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According to former Bush officials, all defence and intelligence sources, senior members of the administration created a shadow agency of Pentagon analysts staffed mainly by ideological amateurs to compete with the CIA and its military counterpart, the Defence Intelligence Agency.

The agency, known as the Office of Special Plans (OSP) was set up by the defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, to second-guess CIA information and operated under the patronage of hardline conservatives in the top rungs of the administration, the Pentagon and at the White House, including Vice-President Dick Cheney.

The ideologically driven network functioned like a shadow government, much of it off the official payroll and beyond congressional oversight. But it proved powerful enough to prevail in a struggle with the state department and the CIA by establishing a justification for war.....

The president's most trusted adviser, Mr Cheney, was at the shadow network's sharp end. He made several trips to the CIA in Langley, Virginia, to demand a more "forward-leaning" interpretation of the threat posed by Saddam. When he was not there to make his influence felt, his chief of staff, Lewis "Scooter" Libby was. Such hands-on involvement in the processing of intelligence data was unprecedented for a vice-president in recent times, and it put pressure on CIA officials to come up with the appropriate results.

Another frequent visitor was Newt Gingrich, the former Republican party leader who resurfaced after September 11 as a Pentagon "consultant" and a member of its unpaid defence advisory board, with influence far beyond his official title.

An intelligence official confirmed Mr Gingrich made "a couple of visits" but said: "There's nothing at all unusual about people both in and out of government coming here to engage in a dialogue and to exchange views on a range of subjects."

In that guise he visited Langley three times in the run-up to war, and according to accounts, the political veteran sought to browbeat analysts into toughening up their assessments of Saddam's menace.

Mr Gingrich gained access to the CIA headquarters and was listened to because he was seen as a personal emissary of the Pentagon, and in particular, of the OSP....

"Most of the people they had in that office were off the books, on personal services contracts. At one time, there were over 100 of them," said an intelligence source. The contracts allow a department to hire individuals, without specifying a job description.

As John Pike, a defence analyst at the thinktank GlobalSecurity.org, put it, the contracts "are basically a way they could pack the room with their little friends".

"They surveyed data and picked out what they liked," said Gregory Thielmann, a senior official in the state department's intelligence bureau until his retirement in September. "The whole thing was bizarre. The secretary of defence had this huge defence intelligence agency, and he went around it."

In fact, the OSP's activities were a complete mystery to the DIA and the Pentagon.


The spies who pushed for war

And they think they have problems now. Their problems are only beginning.
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John Webb
 
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Reply Mon 21 Jul, 2003 02:59 am
Liars Or Gross Incompetents?
Whatever the truth, none of the following are fit for public office. Between them, they have caused the death and injury of thousands and wasted billions of dollars and pounds belonging to their taxpayers on the strength of deliberately fabricated and/or exaggerated evidence about Iraq's Weapons Of Mass Destruction.

Those guilty of lying or incompetence beyond belief include: U.S. - Bush; Rumsfeld; Cheney; Rice; Powell; U.K. - Blair; Hoon; Straw; Australia - Howard.

All of whom appeared on television, day after day, week after week, month after month, warning the world about the dangers posed by Saddam's non-existent weapons. Among the others, Powell claimed he had thousands of them. Howard alleged he had mammoth quantities. Blair claimed he had nuclear, chemical and biological weapons ready and waiting.

And remember all the spurious tales of mystery ships overflowing with Saddam's weapons? Or the travelling chemical laboratories, NONE of which have ever been found? Or all the W.M.D.s concealed in Saddam's palaces? And how the U.N. Inspectors found NOTHING at every one of the Western security agencies top sites? Remember all the terrorism alerts across America and Britain and the various 'terrorist' arrests which came to ZERO.

The buck used to stop at the top. Today, those at the top only accept responsibility for collecting their ill-gotten wages of sin.

If any them had one remaining scintilla of integrity, he or she would have quit. There is probably more chance of finding Elvis alive and well and living on the moon?
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LibertyD
 
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Reply Mon 21 Jul, 2003 03:21 am
Here's a great quote from an article in yesterday's NYT that kind of sums up the administration's thought process:

"Intelligence doesn't necessarily mean something is true," Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said at a Pentagon news briefing after major combat ended in Iraq. "You know, it's your best estimate of the situation. It doesn't mean it's a fact. I mean, that's not what intelligence is."

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/20/international/worldspecial/20WEAP.html?th
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