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missing WMD expert is found dead!

 
 
PDiddie
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jul, 2003 01:26 pm
Weapons expert Dr David Kelly reportedly told of "many dark actors playing games" in an email to a journalist hours before his suicide.

The words appeared to refer to officials at the Ministry of Defence and UK intelligence agencies with whom he had sparred over interpretations of weapons reports, according to the New York Times.

The message gave no indication that he was depressed and said he was waiting "until the end of the week" before judging how his appearance before the House of Commons Foreign Affairs Committee had gone.

The newspaper did not name the recipient of the email.

It said another associate had received a "combative" message from Dr Kelly shortly before he left his Oxfordshire home for the last time on Thursday.

The scientist said in the email that he was determined to overcome the scandal surrounding him and was enthusiastic about the possibility of returning to Iraq...

Dr Kelly's wife Janice told the New York Times her husband had worked on Thursday morning on a report he said he owed the Foreign Office and had sent some emails to friends.

She said: "After lunch, he went out for a walk to stretch his legs as he usually does."

Mrs Kelly said she had no indication that her husband was contemplating suicide.

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Piffka
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jul, 2003 02:16 pm
It would really be odd if it turned out he was left-handed. A left-handed person would definitely not slit his left wrist first.
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cobalt
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jul, 2003 02:54 pm
Vince Foster comment, anyone?
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jul, 2003 02:59 pm
Well, Cobalt, some Vince Foster memories have been knocking softly at the door of my mind...
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JJ
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jul, 2003 03:08 pm
Who took that walk with David Kelley?
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snood
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jul, 2003 03:19 pm
All I've heard is that "it would be very unusual for him to walk that distance alone", suggesting he wasn't alone, and that he didn't often walk that way.
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JJ
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jul, 2003 03:21 pm
snood wrote:
All I've heard is that "it would be very unusual for him to walk that distance alone", suggesting he wasn't alone, and that he didn't often walk that way.


Who was lurking outside the house, in the darkened woods?
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jul, 2003 03:25 pm
Da Bears, JJ.
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frolic
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jul, 2003 03:33 pm
JJ wrote:
snood wrote:
All I've heard is that "it would be very unusual for him to walk that distance alone", suggesting he wasn't alone, and that he didn't often walk that way.


Who was lurking outside the house, in the darkened woods?


The MI5? Remember Pat Finucane?
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McTag
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jul, 2003 03:36 pm
Tartarin wrote:
I have a macabre thought about this (not having tried to slit my wrists or commit suicide any other way): You take the pills to alter mood and help pain, and then you presumably want (if you don't like pain, anxiety and anguish) to go pretty quickly. You slit both wrists, no? Quicker, no?


The drug could have acted as an anti-coagulant, as somebody said, but I believe common aspirin would work better. Dr Kelly would have known. Anyway, the post-mortem should be able to discover if he took any of the drug, and if so, how long before death he took it.

It's a macabre subject all right, and my feeling at the moment is that it was a suicide, not a murder.
I just wanted to take up Tartarin's point: if the subject is anguished, as he was, and if he slashed his wrist deeply, using a sharp knife, he may have been quite unable to slash the other wrist too. And he doubtless knew it wasn't necessary to do so, as indeed was proved.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jul, 2003 03:38 pm
A commentator just now remarked that the Kelly death "comes at an unimaginably bad moment for Tony Blair." Factor THAT in...
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JJ
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jul, 2003 03:41 pm
Who'll be next?
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Sofia
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jul, 2003 03:45 pm
Britain is so anti-Blair--they'll be accusing him of having it done.

I hope they release the content of those e-mails--
and any history of depression this man may have had.

Those were anti-depressants at the scene. Were they prescribed to him?
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snood
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jul, 2003 03:48 pm
sofia-
Did you immediately think about Vince Foster when you heard of this, and if so, how did you think your reactions to the two deaths were similar; different?
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Piffka
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jul, 2003 03:49 pm
Cobalt -- I don't remember much about the Vince Foster death, except there were some who said Hillary might have been involved, I think. He'd been her law partner, right?
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JJ
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jul, 2003 03:53 pm
Sofia wrote:
Britain is so anti-Blair--they'll be accusing him of having it done.

I hope they release the content of those e-mails--
and any history of depression this man may have had.

Those were anti-depressants at the scene. Were they prescribed to him?


He was found to have a combo drug containing tylenol & dextropropoxyphene.
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JJ
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jul, 2003 03:54 pm
It'll be nice, when we get all the real facts.
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snood
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jul, 2003 04:02 pm
dextropropoxyphene - a narcotic pain killer. (also known as Darvon)
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jul, 2003 04:03 pm
What's wrong with the facts we have now, JJ?

Not real enough for you?
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snood
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jul, 2003 04:04 pm
Well, maybe he's curious about how the guy died. I am.
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