Dems back down on "timeline"

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/02/AR2007050201517.html

President Bush and congressional leaders began negotiating a second war funding bill yesterday, with Democrats offering the first major concession: an agreement to drop their demand for a timeline to bring troops home from Iraq.

Democrats backed off after the House failed, on a vote of 222 to 203, to override the president's veto of a $124 billion measure that would have required U.S. forces to begin withdrawing as early as July. But party leaders made it clear that the next bill will have to include language that influences war policy. Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (Nev.) outlined a second measure that would step up Iraqi accountability, "transition" the U.S. military role and show "a reasonable way to end this war."

This is interesting.
I thought the dems were not going to back down at all on this.

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They aren't.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/horsesmouth/2007/05/pelosis_office.php

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Pelosi's staff:

Not true. Speaker just told members of the Democratic caucus that the story is totally untrue. We are still deciding what provisions the new bill will include.

Senator Reid's office:

No decisions have been made on this yet. No options have been ruled in or out.

The WaPo is full of crap on this one. This is how these 'inside the beltway' memes get started: a writer uses anonymous sources to make up a meme, others link to him in order to prove that the meme exists. But when actual, named sources are questioned, they deny it.

Cycloptichorn

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Cycloptichorn wrote:

They aren't.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/horsesmouth/2007/05/pelosis_office.php

Quote:
Pelosi's staff:

Not true. Speaker just told members of the Democratic caucus that the story is totally untrue. We are still deciding what provisions the new bill will include.

Senator Reid's office:

No decisions have been made on this yet. No options have been ruled in or out.

The WaPo is full of crap on this one. This is how these 'inside the beltway' memes get started: a writer uses anonymous sources to make up a meme, others link to him in order to prove that the meme exists. But when actual, named sources are questioned, they deny it.

Cycloptichorn

You may be correct,I just saw the article while reading the on-line issue today.

But,you know as well as I do that "named sources" will often deny something that they will confirm as "unnamed sources".
Its called CYA for those people.

The WH has always had that problem,so it MIGHT be true but the dems dont want to admit it yet.

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Unfortunately, the Democrats don't have the votes to override the veto, and I fear they lack the guts to call Bush out. They sent a bill providing the funding Bush asked for; Bush vetoed it. The Democrats compromised by continuing to fund the military misadventure in Iraq, but rather than compromise on his own position, Bush has decided to deprive our soldiers.

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I'm disapointed. I would prefer they continue to send the exact same bill back to dickhead and not back down.

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Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

I'm disapointed. I would prefer they continue to send the exact same bill back to dickhead and not back down.

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Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein, (attributed)
US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)

Wouldnt doing what you propose be a perfect example of that?

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not at all...it would just continue to put the ball in bushs' court...

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Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

not at all...it would just continue to put the ball in bushs' court...

And if he continues to veto it?

What is gained?

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mysteryman wrote:

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
not at all...it would just continue to put the ball in bushs' court...

And if he continues to veto it?

What is gained?

The war ends, because there is no more money for it.

This is the ultimate goal, remember - to end the war.

Cycloptichorn

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This is going to come down to a who get's the support of the American public-- and the spin machines are ramping up to full speed.

If the Democrats in Congress can get the majority of the American public to support them then the Republicans will start switching over (falling like flies) as no politician wants to lose their job by defying the public on an important issue.

Right now the American public is teetering... they clearly oppose the war, but they don't seem ready to get behind a showdown they fear may actually hurt the troops (whether this is true or not depends on whose spin you believe and whether Bush would actually follow through on his implied threat to defy Congress).

I have been predicting for a while that the Democrats are going to settle on 2 or three more months of funding. Then they will wait for the American public to make it clear where it stands. Time is certainly against the Republicans.

Let's see what happens.

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