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Illinois Wants to Ban All Guns - Make Shooters Criminals

 
 
cjhsa
 
Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 09:15 am
This is what Joe was all in a bunch about - he's so excited to screw law abiding citizens and criminalize them, while giving real criminals a pass.

If you live in Illinois, and care about your rights, you need to let these idiots know, in a nice way, that they are uniformed idiots. Don't let your rights be taken from you - it's that simple.


SPRINGFIELD, Ill., March 6 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The following was
released today by the ISRA Political Victory Fund (ISRA-PVF):
A proposal to ban hundreds of models of popular sporting rifles and
shotguns is raising the ire of gun owners across Illinois. Sponsored by
Senate President Emil Jones, SB16 prohibits the manufacture, sale and
possession of a host of rifles and shotguns widely used for hunting and
target shooting. Owners of affected firearms would have 90-days to
surrender their property to the Illinois State Police or risk felony
prosecution.
"The net effect of this bill would be the destruction of many
time-honored Illinois traditions," said ISRA-PVF spokesman, Richard
Pearson. "Competitive target shooting -- enjoyed by thousands of
Illinoisans -- would become a thing of the past. Collectors would feel the
sting of this legislation as well, since their collections would become
virtually worthless overnight. Thanks to the ambiguous wording of the bill,
its passage would instantly create hundreds of thousands of felons out of
folks who have never gotten so much as a parking ticket before. The kicker
is, this bill contains absolutely no provisions that address violent
criminals -- its sole impact is on the law-abiding hunter and sportsman."
"If SB16 passes the Senate, the state's gun owners will know exactly
where to place the blame," continued Pearson. "That blame rests squarely
with the senate Democrats, both north and south of I-80, who elevated Emil
Jones to the president's chair."
"The lawful firearm owners of Illinois have enjoyed mutually-beneficial
relationships with legislators on both sides of the aisle," commented
Pearson. "If SB16 passes, many of those relationships will come to a
screeching halt. Southern Illinois politics are in a state of change, with
senate races getting closer all the time. If the senate Democrats who
elected Emil Jones to the presidency cannot control him, then we'll do what
we can to take his majority away from him. No friend of Emil Jones is a
friend of ours."
The ISRA-PVF is a political action committee affiliated with the
Illinois State Rifle Association. A copy of our report is available for a
fee from the Illinois State Board of Elections, Springfield, Illinois.

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parados
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 09:25 am
More of the same, I see.

It seems "some guns" is the same thing as "all guns."

Rolling Eyes
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 09:30 am
Yes sir, it is, especially when an uniformed idiot wants to criminalize hundreds of thousands of citizens.

I take it you agree with the idiot.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 09:35 am
Re: Illinois Wants to Ban All Guns - Make Shooters Criminals
cjhsa wrote:
This is what Joe was all in a bunch about - he's so excited to screw law abiding citizens and criminalize them, while giving real criminals a pass.

Actually, I hadn't heard of this proposal before -- thanks for bringing it to my attention. Of course, I'd have to look at the text of the proposed legislation before offering an opinion on it. I'm sure you've already done that, right ceej?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 09:36 am
http://www.handgunlaw.us/LicMaps/images/all_usa_map.gif

Illinois and Wisconsin are a cancer.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 09:37 am
Re: Illinois Wants to Ban All Guns - Make Shooters Criminals
joefromchicago wrote:
I'm sure you've already done that, right ceej?


"SB16 prohibits the manufacture, sale and
possession of a host of rifles and shotguns widely used for hunting and
target shooting. Owners of affected firearms would have 90-days to
surrender their property to the Illinois State Police or risk felony
prosecution. "

Not sure what part of that you missed Joe. Hope you enjoy the nazi state of Illinois. Sig heil!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 09:40 am
Re: Illinois Wants to Ban All Guns - Make Shooters Criminals
Besides that, those folks here can't read either

cjhsa wrote:
A proposal to ban hundreds of models of popular sporting rifles and
shotguns is raising the ire of gun owners across Illinois. Sponsored by
Senate President Emil Jones, SB16
prohibits the manufacture, sale and
possession of a host of rifles and shotguns widely used for hunting and
target shooting. Owners of affected firearms would have 90-days to
surrender their property to the Illinois State Police or risk felony
prosecution.


http://i19.tinypic.com/2mgjdqe.jpg

Source

Well, most hunters use Kalashnikovs and Uzis I may believe now according to expert cjhsa's expertise.
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 09:40 am
Here is the full text of the bill at present....

Source
Quote:
95TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY
State of Illinois
2007 and 2008SB0016


Introduced 1/31/2007, by Sen. Emil Jones, Jr.


SYNOPSIS AS INTRODUCED:


New Act


Creates the Assault Weapons Ban Act of 2007. Contains only a short title provision.



LRB095 04801 RLC 24861 b








A BILL FOR





SB0016 LRB095 04801 RLC 24861 b



1 AN ACT concerning criminal law.

2 Be it enacted by the People of the State of Illinois,
3 represented in the General Assembly:

4 Section 1. Short title. This Act may be cited as the
5 Assault Weapons Ban Act of 2007.


Wow. it says it right there. "We want to ban all guns." Don't blink or you will miss it. Laughing
But then of course the bill was amended..

Source

Quite funny. Again it doesn't say it bans all guns.

The even funnier part is, the bill says this
Quote:
(c) This Section does not apply to a person who possessed a
12 weapon or attachment prohibited by subsection (b) before the
13 effective date of this amendatory Act of the 95th General
14 Assembly,
provided that the person has provided proof of
15 ownership to the Department of State Police within 90 days
16 after the effective date of this amendatory Act of the 95th
17 General Assembly as required by law. On or after the effective
18 date of this amendatory Act of the 95th General Assembly, such
19 person may transfer such weapon or attachment only to an heir,
20 an individual residing in another state maintaining that weapon
21 in another state, or a dealer licensed as a federal firearms
22 dealer under Section 923 of the federal Gun Control Act of
23 1968.

So it appears they aren't coming to take your guns after all cj. They just say you have to provide evidence of owning it to keep it. Not only that, you CAN still sell it.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 09:41 am
Re: Illinois Wants to Ban All Guns - Make Shooters Criminals
cjhsa wrote:

"SB16 prohibits the manufacture, sale and
possession of a host of rifles and shotguns widely used for hunting and
target shooting. Owners of affected firearms would have 90-days to
surrender their property to the Illinois State Police or risk felony
prosecution. "

Not sure what part of that you missed Joe. Hope you enjoy the nazi state of Illinois. Sig heil!


Can you show that quote, please?
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 09:42 am
cjhsa wrote:
Illinois and Wisconsin are a cancer.

That's not fair. If Illinois and Wisconsin are cancers, then the Northern Marianas Islands and American Samoa are cancers too.


cjhsa wrote:
"SB16 prohibits the manufacture, sale and
possession of a host of rifles and shotguns widely used for hunting and
target shooting. Owners of affected firearms would have 90-days to
surrender their property to the Illinois State Police or risk felony
prosecution. "

Not sure what part of that you missed Joe.

The actual text of the proposed legislation.

cjhsa wrote:
Hope you enjoy the nazi state of Illinois.

It has its charms.

cjhsa wrote:
Sig heil!

That's "Sieg," not "sig." Don't they teach you anything at your Michigan Militia meetings?
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 09:43 am
That quote is from the hysterical opinion piece. It has nothing to do with the legislation.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 09:44 am
I know, you know and others as well.

But cjhsa takes his quote for the law it seems.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 09:47 am
joefromchicago wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
]Sig heil!

That's "Sieg," not "sig." Don't they teach you anything at your Michigan Militia meetings?


Apparently not, but I can see you've been practicing.

Parados - what about gun owners who inherited guns from their relatives? Or simply have had them so long they cannot possibly provide proof of ownership?

Your arguments only bear witness to my claim that Illinois wants to ban all guns and disarm the people. It is a clear violation of the 2A. Are you also afraid of video cameras? Illinois is full of them - you have no privacy anywhere. Perhaps you should move to France.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 09:48 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
I know, you know and others as well.

But cjhsa takes his quote for the law it seems.


People who want to ban guns can KMA. Simple as that.
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 09:54 am
I am unclear as to how you can own a gun but not be able to prove you possess that gun cj. Possession is 9/10s of the law.

There is no provision saying you have to provide evidence of how you got the gun. You just have to tell law enforcement you own it. A simple list of the covered items with their descriptions and serial numbers if applicable would suffice to meet the law.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 09:54 am
cjhsa wrote:
Perhaps you should move to France.


Now that's interesting: you're not only well educated in English Law (re: no kitchen knives are allowed to be sold in the UK) but about the legal situation in France as well.

Could you quote some references to explain that above quoted sentence?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 10:12 am
See my "Freedom of Speech - French Style" post.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 10:17 am
Post it here - I didn't ask the question on another thread - or at list give a link to the related response.

If you don't mind, maƮtre cjhsa, LLM.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 10:39 am
http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=92521&highlight=

Please don't waste any more of my time with your laziness. Thanks.
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