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Tue 27 Feb, 2007 04:14 am
What a shame it continues.
tryingtohelp wrote:What a shame it continues.
what a shame what continues?
Afghanistan and all the killing.
But Ann Coulter told us that "Afganistan is going swimmingly!"
Interesting, in a very scary way, to imagine what might have followed if Cheney had been seriously hurt or killed.
What might have followed if Cheney had been seriously hurt or killed?
well bush would be president and that couldn't be helpful....
Bush is already President.
tryingtohelp wrote:Bush is already President.
whatever makes you feel secure....
Who said it made me feel secure? I stated a fact.
My surmise?
Certain first consequence: domestic polarization on steroids. While most Americans (by large percentages) don't like the fellow, the small percentage who do really do. Serious war frenzy from them of the "Nuke everyone!" sort. For most of America (and about 90% of the rest of the world) the initial shock and anger would give way to an overwhelming anti-war conclusion.
Second consequence: those who wish to hurt America would be seriously encouraged that they can do it.
Third consequence: American administration in immediate disarray. Cheney is, by broad and educated consensus, the most powerful vice president in US history. The other side of that coin is that Bush is the weakest president ever in relation to his vice. One hopes that when Bush would be informed of the event, he wouldn't be reading to an elementary class. The vice's office, presently hugely powerful and influential in this administration's operations, would seek to maintain that power/influence but the new vice - Rice, I expect - would bring in her own people and they would be more temperate (because everyone else is more temperate than that crowd).
Fourth consequence: militarily pummel someone/anyone. That's the American response these days. Manly, feel-good, dominance above all sort of stuff.
Fifth consequence: the Republicans would suddenly have, in Rice, a continuity candidate. I'm not at all sure how that would play out, but I suspect the strengthened anti-war dynamic would overwhelm her.
well thought out and I suspect, accurate response there Bernie my man.
Because it didn't end with bush riding off into the sunset on a stallion swinging a terrorists' head by the hair, I suspect it will be met with ridicule from certain corners however.
"The other side of that coin is that Bush is the weakest president ever in relation to his vice."
What is his vice? Does he drink, smoke, what???? You know him to say what his vice's are?
I believe TTH is being obtuse...
What in the world gave you that idea?
"Cheney is, by broad and educated consensus, the most powerful vice president in US history."
Can you give a link that backs this up? I have never heard that.
tryingtohelp wrote:"The other side of that coin is that Bush is the weakest president ever in relation to his vice."
What is his vice? Does he drink, smoke, what???? You know him to say what his vice's are?
I haven't met the fellow. On the other hand, the lovely lady I live with has and her children attended the same private school with the twins and spent a fair bit of time visiting at the Bush household.
I'm not quite sure how to deal with your joke.
It was not a joke. I was serious.
I think we would probably invade Grenada again and then get Clint Eastwood to make a movie about it.
tryingtohelp wrote:"Cheney is, by broad and educated consensus, the most powerful vice president in US history."
Can you give a link that backs this up? I have never heard that.
Really? That's more than a little surprising. May I inquire what news or political information sources you will be attending to today? I'd like to avoid duplicating your reading list.