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If the US ends up withdrawing from Iraq..

 
 
Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 03:19 pm
than
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 04:11 pm
mm wrote: That seems fair.
Dems started the war in Vietnam,then blamed it on the repubs.
So,it seems only fair that the repubs return the favor.



Prove this statement.
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rabel22
 
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Reply Fri 23 Feb, 2007 12:01 am
MM
Yes. Prove your statement.
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 23 Feb, 2007 08:13 pm
Here it starts...

Strike Democratic Ohio Governor Strickland from the list of politicians I respect.

Quote:
Strickland explains comments on Iraqi refugees

Dayton Daily News
February 20, 2007

Gov. Ted Strickland has learned that when the governor of Ohio speaks, the country listens, even editorial writers at USA Today.

An editorial in that newspaper on Monday blasted as "thoughtless" and "heartless" comments the Democratic governor made last week about President Bush's plan to relocate to the United States about 7,000 Iraqi refugees made homeless by the war. Editorials in several Ohio newspapers also blistered Strickland.

Strickland said that the Associated Press had quoted him correctly but that "I didn't say it as I probably should have said it." The quote: "I think Ohio and Ohioans have contributed a lot to Iraq in terms of blood, sweat and too many tears. I am sympathetic to the plight of the innocent Iraqi people who have fled the country. However, I would not want to ask Ohioans to accept a greater burden than they already have borne for the Bush administration's failed policies."

Strickland said that he spoke just after reading that the total number of refugees from the war is 2½ to 3 million people and growing, and that accepting just 7,000 seemed to be "political cover" for President Bush and his failed policies.

Strickland's new position: If some Iraqi refugees come to Ohio, they would be welcome.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 5 Mar, 2007 03:50 pm
This thread question is addressed in today's LATimes op-ed section-LINK
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Mon 5 Mar, 2007 04:07 pm
the us is not going to end up withdrawing from Iraq

the us is going to end up running away from Iraq carrying their dead and wounded and the rest of the world laughing.

and believe me it gives me no pleasure to say this as brits are equally committed. (until recently)
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 5 Mar, 2007 04:30 pm
I don't think so either. Mired in and getting more so...
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 5 Mar, 2007 04:32 pm
osso, Good post. Unfortunately, the neocons are good at using "fear" in all its possible scenarios that they can create in the wee little brains. They don't ever admit they are wrong, and continue on a course for the past four years that has shown no progress, but instead has increased into a quagmire. They have no shame in sacrificing our men and women to a positive goal they can't even articulate - just more of the same while it gets worse for all concerned.
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 25 May, 2007 03:20 pm
Kudos to Ted Kennedy; Richard Lugar; and the new Democratic-majority Congress. It's a start.

Quote:
More Visas for Iraqi Translators

May 25
Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) - Congress has agreed to a tenfold increase in special immigrant visas for Iraqi and Afghan translators and interpreters, whose work with U.S. military personnel and diplomatic officials makes them targets for terrorist violence

The legislation approved by voice vote in the Senate late Thursday would authorize the issuance of 500 such visas a year over the next two years to translators. The government now issues 50 visas a year to translators who have worked a year for the U.S. military.

There's currently a nine-year backlog in acting on those eligible for U.S. admission.

"America has a fundamental obligation to help those brave Iraqis who put their lives on the line by working for our government," said Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., who sponsored the bill with Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., The House passed the measure earlier in the week. [..]

The bill is S. 1104

On the Net:

Congress: http://thomas.loc.gov/

Mind you, there's a distinct "drop of water on a hot plate" dimension here..

Quote:
But Kennedy and others also stressed that far more needs to be done to meet the needs of the millions of Iraqis who have been displaced by four years of fighting in the country.

An estimated 2 million Iraqis have fled the country because of the war and the sectarian violence while another 2 million have been displaced internally. The Bush administration, responding to criticism that it has ignored this refugee problem, recently announced it would issue 7,000 visas this year. Since the war began in 2003, less than 800 visas have gone to Iraqi refugees, 202 in 2006. [..]
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2007 10:29 pm
Now that Malaki said they can handle security by themselves even if the US pulls out, do you think that'll happen any time soon?
Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Sat 23 Aug, 2008 03:10 pm
@cicerone imposter,
The US-Iraqi "status of forces" agreement has been months in the making, and today [Thursday] we are told that it's "almost" ready " but not quite. So what's the problem? Well, there are a few bones of contention between the "liberators" and the "liberated," the first being how long US forces will stay, and the second being the terms under which they will essentially continue their occupation. What this increasingly contentious issue between the Americans and the Iraqis reveals and underscores is just how far down the road to empire the US has traveled.

What is becoming readily apparent, even to this administration, is that the Americans are no longer wanted by any of the Iraqi factions: not the Sunnis, who hated us from the beginning, not the Shi'ites, who soon learned to hate us, and not even the Kurds, formerly our trusted compradors in the region and now sullenly resentful at having had their anti-Turkish campaign reined in by a joint effort of US and Iraqi forces.

President Bush has long disdained the very idea of setting a timetable for the withdrawal of US troops, but last month had the rug pulled out from under him " and John McCain " when Barack Obama went to Iraq and was greeted by the Iraqi Prime Minister, Nouri al-Maliki, who promptly endorsed Obama's call for a definitive timetable. The status of forces agreement has been demoted to the level of a "memorandum of understanding," so as not to require a vote by the US Congress, nevertheless it cannot avoid a vote in the Iraqi Parliament. That's what they mean by "exporting" democracy: It's the Iraqis who do the voting, while we just get to foot the bill.
http://antiwar.com/justin/
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 25 Aug, 2008 10:09 am
Iraq demands deadline for pullout of all US troops

By QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 5 minutes ago

BAGHDAD - Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said Monday no security agreement with the United States could be reached unless it included a "specific deadline" for the withdrawal of all American troops from Iraq.

Last week, U.S. and Iraqi officials said the two sides had agreed tentatively to a schedule which included a broad pullout of combat forces by the end of 2011 with a residual U.S. force remaining behind to continue training and advising the Iraqi security forces.

But al-Maliki's remarks Monday suggested that the Iraqi government is still not satisfied with that arrangement. An aide to the prime minister said Monday that Iraq remained adamant that the last American soldier must leave Iraq by the end of 2011 " regardless of conditions at the time.
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