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PBS 'Frontline' Tonight Tackles Media and the War

 
 
Reply Tue 13 Feb, 2007 09:31 am
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 13 Feb, 2007 06:30 pm
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PBS Producer Says He Just Couldn't Find Conservatives To Speak on Terrorism Media Bias
Posted by Tim Graham on February 13, 2007 - 17:02.

Several national newspapers praised the four-hour PBS Frontline series beginning Tuesday night titled "News War," on how Team Bush (and Team Nixon before that) undemocratically waged war on the press. There's not much on whether the press was undemocratically waging war on the elected president in those cases. (Who, pray tell, voted for the New York Times to run the country?) The man setting the table for the first two hours is Arun Rath, whom the South Asian Journalists Association website jokingly notes "acquired a semi-classical education at Reed College in Oregon ('Atheism, Communism and Free Love')." What a surprise for an NPR/PBS producer.

In a new interview on the SAJA website, Rath explained how he was somehow completely incapable of tracking down conservatives to comment on the show's arrogant liberal thesis, namely that the press is crucial to save democracy from freedom-crushing Republicans:

We tried without success for nearly a year to get someone from the administration to talk to us, but at the last minute we scored an interview with Dan Bartlett. That, and a number of other key interviews came about from simple persistence and effort over a long time by a number of producers.


We were originally going to feature a lot more about the rise of conservative media in this series, but it just wouldn't fit in the end; plus we'd tried without success to get interviews with the big names at Fox News, and to talk about conservative media without such key players (Rush Limbaugh et al also turned us down) felt a little weak.


Suffice it to say PBS has not contacted the news watchers at the MRC. It's probably also easily guessed they didn't call the many conservative talk show hosts and members of Congress who could build up a decent head of steam about the arrogance of Obama-worshipping newspapers who wage war on the war on terror.
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 13 Feb, 2007 09:20 pm
Obama-worshipping? Not a little bitter, are we?
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 14 Feb, 2007 04:24 am
That is surely the most pathetic bit of commentary I've seen you paste in a thread, timber.
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Several national newspapers praised the four-hour PBS Frontline series beginning Tuesday night titled "News War," on how Team Bush (and Team Nixon before that) undemocratically waged war on the press. There's not much on whether the press was undemocratically waging war on the elected president in those cases. (Who, pray tell, voted for the New York Times to run the country?)

What the phuck do you conceive as the proper role of an independent press in a democracy? In the 2002 election, the majority of American newspaper editorial pages supported George Bush. Would you have it that 100% would be the more proper and more democratic ratio?

The following story is clearly an undemocratic waging of war on an elected president...
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The CIA's former executive director and a defense contractor were indicted yesterday by a San Diego grand jury for allegedly corrupting the intelligence agency's contracts, marking one of the first criminal cases to reach into the CIA's clandestine operations in Europe and the Middle East.

Kyle "Dusty" Foggo, a longtime logistics officer who was the CIA's top administrator from November 2004 until last May, was accused of using his seniority and influence at a prior CIA job in Europe to steer business deals to his longtime friend Brent R. Wilkes, a California businessman and top Republican fundraiser.


And, transparently, so is the following (from same article)...
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While the probe has threatened to sweep in other members of Congress, some uncertainty surrounds it. A key U.S. attorney involved in it -- Carol C. Lam in San Diego -- has been fired by the administration for unspecified "performance-related" deficiencies along with a handful of other federal prosecutors. Lam oversaw the Foggo investigation and is to leave Thursday. The head of the local FBI field office praised Lam's performance and said her firing appeared to be "political," an accusation that the Justice Department has denied.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/13/AR2007021301039.html
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 14 Feb, 2007 10:39 am
Radio Station Cries 'Enough'
Radio Station Cries 'Enough' -- Won't Quote From Certain News Stories Relying on Unnamed Officials
By Greg Mitchell - E & P
February 13, 2007

After the latest widely-publicized stories in national newspapers about weapons from Iran allegedly killing Americans in Iraq -- based completely on unnamed sources -- at least one smaller news outlet has had enough of it.

The news director of the public radio station in Santa Fe, New Mexico, has directed his staff to "ignore national stories quoting unnamed sources." He also called on other news outlets to join this policy.

Bill Dupuy sent the following to his news staff.

Effectively immediately and until further notice, it is the policy of KSFR's news department to ignore and not repeat any wire service or nationally published story about Iran, China, North Korea, Pakistan, Russia or any other foreign power that quotes an "unnamed" U.S. official.

What we have suspected and talked about at length before is now becoming clear. "High administration officials speaking on the condition of anonymity," "Usually reliable Washington sources," and others of the like were behind the publicity that added credibility to the need to go to war against Afghanistan and Iraq.

Our news department covers local news. But, like local newspapers and others, we occassionally are taken in by national stories that we have no way to verify.

This is a small news department with a small reach. We cannot research these stories ourselves. But we can take steps not to compromise our integrity. We should not dutifully parrot whatever comes out of Washington, on the
wire or by whatever means, no matter how intriguing and urgent it sounds, when the source is unnamed.

I am also calling on our colleagues in other local news departments -- broadcast and print -- to take the same professional approach.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Wed 14 Feb, 2007 12:53 pm
Re: Radio Station Cries 'Enough'
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
Radio Station Cries 'Enough' -- Won't Quote From Certain News Stories Relying on Unnamed Officials
By Greg Mitchell - E & P
February 13, 2007

After the latest widely-publicized stories in national newspapers about weapons from Iran allegedly killing Americans in Iraq -- based completely on unnamed sources -- at least one smaller news outlet has had enough of it.

The news director of the public radio station in Santa Fe, New Mexico, has directed his staff to "ignore national stories quoting unnamed sources." He also called on other news outlets to join this policy.

Bill Dupuy sent the following to his news staff.

Effectively immediately and until further notice, it is the policy of KSFR's news department to ignore and not repeat any wire service or nationally published story about Iran, China, North Korea, Pakistan, Russia or any other foreign power that quotes an "unnamed" U.S. official.

What we have suspected and talked about at length before is now becoming clear. "High administration officials speaking on the condition of anonymity," "Usually reliable Washington sources," and others of the like were behind the publicity that added credibility to the need to go to war against Afghanistan and Iraq.

Our news department covers local news. But, like local newspapers and others, we occassionally are taken in by national stories that we have no way to verify.

This is a small news department with a small reach. We cannot research these stories ourselves. But we can take steps not to compromise our integrity. We should not dutifully parrot whatever comes out of Washington, on the
wire or by whatever means, no matter how intriguing and urgent it sounds, when the source is unnamed.

I am also calling on our colleagues in other local news departments -- broadcast and print -- to take the same professional approach.


I wonder,does this also apply to "unnamed sources" that leak anything that could possibly be damaging to the administration?
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Wed 14 Feb, 2007 02:06 pm
timberlandko wrote:
We tried without success for nearly a year to get someone from the administration to talk to us, but at the last minute we scored an interview with Dan Bartlett.

Don't forget the interviews with Judith Miller. That's pretty much like getting someone from the administration to talk to you.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 15 Feb, 2007 07:10 am
mysteryman wrote
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I wonder,does this also apply to "unnamed sources" that leak anything that could possibly be damaging to the administration?


That's the wrong question...unless you support authoritarian control of information by the state or by anyone who holds power, that is.

Imagine that the 2008 election leads to a Dem administration. Then imagine that this Dem administration lies about something very important to the nation and its citizens or imagine that this Dem administration violates the laws and/or the constitution.

Would you wish that some whistle-blower, aware of these violations but at personal risk if he openly reveals them, cannot get the information out to citizens because NBC and Fox and the Washington Times will not carry any story where the source is unnamed?

Would the press, living under this Dem administration, have the primary function or responsibility of avoiding doing any "damage to the administration"? Would it be unpatriotic if the press "damaged" a criminal or a deceitful Dem administration?

Why not consider that the proper role of the press is to serve as watcher of and critic of whoever is in power, whether Dem or Republican?
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Sun 18 Feb, 2007 10:12 am
Chris Wallace smashes Feith's pre-war Qaeda lies RAW STORY
Published: Sunday February 18, 2007

During this morning's edition of Fox News Sunday, host Chris Wallace follows up an interview with Douglas Feith which aired the previous week and points to a Weekly Standard article from November 2003 in order to debunk Feith's claim that he never connected Iraq with al Qaeda.

After airing a clip of last week's interview, in which Feith claims that "Nobody in my office ever said there was an operational relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda," Wallace goes on the offensive.

"But it turns out he did make that case," says Wallace, "in a memo he sent to the Senate Intelligence Committee in October of '03." Wallace then quotes a Weekly Standard article which describes the memo as saying, "Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein had an operational relationship from the early 1990s to 2003."


A transcript of the video clip is below:

Chris Wallace: Now a followup to our interview last Sunday with former Defense Undersecretary Douglas Feith. Many of you wrote in asking us to check out Fieth's claim that he's being unfairly accused of hyping the threat from Saddam Hussein. First, here's what he said to us.

[Begin video clip]

Douglas Feith: Nobody in my office ever said there was an operational relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda. It's just not correct. I mean, words matter.

[End video clip]

Wallace: But it turns out he did make that case in a memo he sent to the Senate Intelligence Committee in October of '03. The Weekly Standard, who saw the Feith memo, described it this way: 'Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein had an operational relationship from the early 1990s to 2003 that involved training in explosives and weapons of mass destruction, logistical support for terrorist attacks, al Qaeda training camps and safe haven in Iraq, and Iraqi financial support for al Qaeda.' Later, Vice President Cheney said the article was the best source of information on the Iraq-al Qaeda connection.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Sun 18 Feb, 2007 11:17 am
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Mon 19 Feb, 2007 08:42 am
blatham wrote:
mysteryman wrote
Quote:
I wonder,does this also apply to "unnamed sources" that leak anything that could possibly be damaging to the administration?


That's the wrong question...unless you support authoritarian control of information by the state or by anyone who holds power, that is.

Imagine that the 2008 election leads to a Dem administration. Then imagine that this Dem administration lies about something very important to the nation and its citizens or imagine that this Dem administration violates the laws and/or the constitution.

Would you wish that some whistle-blower, aware of these violations but at personal risk if he openly reveals them, cannot get the information out to citizens because NBC and Fox and the Washington Times will not carry any story where the source is unnamed?

Would the press, living under this Dem administration, have the primary function or responsibility of avoiding doing any "damage to the administration"? Would it be unpatriotic if the press "damaged" a criminal or a deceitful Dem administration?

Why not consider that the proper role of the press is to serve as watcher of and critic of whoever is in power, whether Dem or Republican?


It is a fair question.

If a news agency pladges to not use any unconfirmed or unnamed sources regarding the govt,then that should hold true for ALL unnamed or unconfirmed reports they get.

They cant have it both ways.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Mon 19 Feb, 2007 12:33 pm
'NY Post': Those Who Oppose 'Surge' in Congress Are Guilty of 'Treason'

CARL HULSE and JEFF ZELENY
NY Times
Sunday, February 18, 2007

"TREASON" screamed the front page of the New York Post today, in reaction to Friday's vote in the House of Representatives which easily passed a nonbinding resolution opposing President Bush's troop surge in Iraq. Seventeen Republicans joined the Democrats in that vote.

The Post's Ralph Peters caleld it "the most disgraceful congressional action since the Democratic Party united to defend slavery"-- roughly 150 years ago.

Peters charged, "Providing aid and comfort to the enemy in wartime is treason. It's not 'just politics.' It's treason....

"The vote was a huge morale booster for al Qaeda, for Iraq's Sunni insurgents, and for the worst of the Shia militias....

"We've reached a low point in the history of our government when a substantial number of legislators would welcome an American defeat in Iraq for domestic political advantage. ...

"If you were an Iraqi, would you be willing to trust Americans and risk your life after the United States Congress voted to abandon you?"
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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 20 Feb, 2007 05:47 pm
mysteryman wrote:
blatham wrote:
mysteryman wrote
Quote:
I wonder,does this also apply to "unnamed sources" that leak anything that could possibly be damaging to the administration?


That's the wrong question...unless you support authoritarian control of information by the state or by anyone who holds power, that is.

Imagine that the 2008 election leads to a Dem administration. Then imagine that this Dem administration lies about something very important to the nation and its citizens or imagine that this Dem administration violates the laws and/or the constitution.

Would you wish that some whistle-blower, aware of these violations but at personal risk if he openly reveals them, cannot get the information out to citizens because NBC and Fox and the Washington Times will not carry any story where the source is unnamed?

Would the press, living under this Dem administration, have the primary function or responsibility of avoiding doing any "damage to the administration"? Would it be unpatriotic if the press "damaged" a criminal or a deceitful Dem administration?

Why not consider that the proper role of the press is to serve as watcher of and critic of whoever is in power, whether Dem or Republican?


It is a fair question.

If a news agency pladges to not use any unconfirmed or unnamed sources regarding the govt,then that should hold true for ALL unnamed or unconfirmed reports they get.

They cant have it both ways.


Actually, its a fairly thoughtless question. As is your "they can't have it both ways" rule. It becomes a rather puzzling matter to apprehend what on earth you think the proper role of a free press ought to be.
Quote:
Thomas Jefferson, on the necessity of a free press (1787)

The basis of our government being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.
http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/rightsof/press.htm
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