Atheism has the same logical flaws as religion

[quote="ThomasYou also have to account for the possibility that there's a wicked God who expects us to spot the obvious inconsistencies of the Bible, and who wants to sort out the gullible zealots so he cen fry them in hell for eternity. That possibility creates a strong disincentive against spending time with religion. And since I don't know how to assign probabilities to the various scenarios, my best bet is to be an agnostic atheist.[/quote]

Why would he want to do that? If your going to be evil, there are much more 'fun' ways of picking out who to burn for all eternity. Why would he spare someone just because they didn't believe a story? Rolling Eyes

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Seeker wrote:

[quote="ThomasYou also have to account for the possibility that there's a wicked God who expects us to spot the obvious inconsistencies of the Bible, and who wants to sort out the gullible zealots so he cen fry them in hell for eternity. That possibility creates a strong disincentive against spending time with religion. And since I don't know how to assign probabilities to the various scenarios, my best bet is to be an agnostic atheist.

Why would he want to do that? If your going to be evil, there are much more 'fun' ways of picking out who to burn for all eternity. Why would he spare someone just because they didn't believe a story? Rolling Eyes

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Why not?

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I was mystified by this categorization of what would or would not be the most fun for god. Course, i'm not up on my fairy tale lore, so . . .

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To me all the arguments for a god are excercises in obfuscation and wilful self deception. There is no evidence for a god and there is absolutely no reason for decieving oneself into thinking there might be. It's the bunk, I tell ya.

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To me, all arguments for a god -- and that there are no gods -- are exercises in obfuscation and willful self-deception.

There is no good and compelling reason to suppose there are gods -- and there are no good and compelling reasons to assert that gods are impossible.

It's all bunk, I tell ya.

But on this (rather dreary in New Jersey) Christmas Eve, I do want to wish all my theistic and atheistic cyber-friends a very Merry Christmas.

Laughing

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Mewwy Chwistmas, Fwank.

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edgarblythe wrote:

Mewwy Chwistmas, Fwank.

Loved that comment -- and I love you too, Edgar.

(You didn't get an Elmer Fudd talking doll for Christmas, did ya?)

:wink:

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No, but I love him for his tenacious nature and for exposing some of our human foibles. He's deep, that Elmer.

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responding to craven de kere , i think the name was , what are you talking about . do you know what logic is ? if so you realize what you just said made absolutely no sense . logic is The science or art of exact reasoning, or of pure and formal thought, or of the laws according to which the processes of pure thinking should be conducted , correct reasoning . reason determines that our minds are the only course of knowledge and that what you said is complete bologna .I recommend you read Ayn Rand ...persay Atlas Shrugged . anyone wanna back me up on this?

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I would like to say this in response to any agnostic or theistic person . I would say that an extroadinary being controlling every aspect of life , bieng beyond our level of existance is an extroadinary claim .
an extraodinary claim requires proving .....so , prove god exists...logically

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Hank Rearden wrote:

responding to craven de kere , i think the name was , what are you talking about . do you know what logic is ? if so you realize what you just said made absolutely no sense .

I am very well aquainted with logic, it's my favorite subject. If you would liek to challenge any of my logic feel free to do so. But if you simply state that some comment I made "makes absolutely no sense" I can only ask you to put your money where your mouth is and demonstrate the logical error.

If you attempt to do so I will respond with either agreement or defense of my position.

Ball's in your court buddy. If you see a logical flaw in anything I posted demonstrate it.

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I'll back ya up buddy, when it comes to pure exercises in fantasy, completely unrelated to any demonstrable reality, Ayn Rand is as close as one can come to pure bullshit on a par with the god myth.

Oh . . . that's not what you were sayin', huh?

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Bye bye, Bologna, bye bye, my husband and I said as we hopped on the train...

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Hank Rearden wrote:

I would like to say this in response to any agnostic or theistic person . I would say that an extroadinary being controlling every aspect of life , bieng beyond our level of existance is an extroadinary claim .
an extraodinary claim requires proving .....so , prove god exists...logically

Hank, if you want to get into a confrontation with Craven on logic -- do so. Frankly, from the sounds of your first few posts here, I think you are biting off much more than you can chew.

If you would like, instead, to discuss what in hell you are talking about here in your comments directed towards agnostics, I'm the guy you want talk to.

What exactly do you suppose, in that logical mind of yours, that I, as an agnostic, should have to prove?

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Using some logic you should "know" absolutely nothing.

what you said is that our minds are inable to know truth .
i completely disagree with that comment .
And im sorry if that came off as bieng belligerant , it wasnt meant that way.

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frank apisa is correct , i didnt mean to direct that toward agnostic people , just thiests .

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Hank Rearden wrote:

Using some logic you should "know" absolutely nothing.

Great, so this means you should not be able to "know" the axiom you just posted. ;-)

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what you said is that our minds are inable to know truth .

When did I say this?

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And im sorry if that came off as bieng belligerant , it wasnt meant that way.

No worries.

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the point about it not making sense is that in the reality we live in we cannot focus on other realitys . we have to live objectively as animals on this earth .

Atheism has the same logical flaws as religion

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