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I quit my job today to be a professional poker player...

 
 
Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2007 01:14 am
Ok, I've long known I wouldn't stay in corporate life for long. I'd been planning to hack it for a few years before getting back to running my own businesses.

Then I fell in love with poker with it's interesting mix of psychology and logic in a pressurized social situation. I've been playing two years now and this year I realized I was good enough to make a living in poker (good thing too since it's my favorite thing to do). I play a lot and am pretty darn good if ya ask me.

I had planned to wait until August to go to Vegas and play the cash games around the Main Event and quit my day job then. But today I got a call and a casino offered me a position as a prop player and I walked out of my job mid-afternoon. They only pay me a bit of change to get games started and I still need to make my living off of the poker play itself but this tipped the scales and I took the leap.

I'm terrified (don't have a bankroll to play so I can't have inordinately bad luck for a while) and excited! This changes everything, I have to manage money differently (cash flow becomes live-or-die as my cash and bankroll are now the tools of my trade) and have to save a large amount to ensure I can't go bust if I run cold for a few weeks.

I know I'm good enough to do this, but I am walking away from a really good job (which I may work at part time if the company wants). Wish me luck (actually, just wish me no really bad luck).
 
timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2007 01:25 am
Make it work - luck is what you do with it.
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Roberta
 
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Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2007 01:44 am
Holy moley, kid. What a ballsey (does ballsey have an e?) thing to do. I think that you've got the right kind of mind for poker. Lots of the top players are or were computer wizzes. Still scary.

I'll be rooting for you and looking for you on tv. I watch a lot of the poker shows.

Holy moley. (Repeating myself. )

If you run into Mike Matasow, please kick him squarely in the groin for me. Smile

Bon chance, buena suerte, and good luck.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2007 01:45 am
Shocked That's incredible Craven! Wow, do I admire your courage. I have actually considered doing the same since my restaurants folded, because I'm no fan of corporate crap either… and the only thing I really excel at is managing sales forces… which isn't really very enjoyable or fulfilling (though my current position would have me being your neighbor in Escazu within a year).

Tell me; how good are you? I mean, how did you determine you are qualified? Have you played extensively in live tournaments? Live Casino games? Against Pros or amateurs? Online? I found that on Party Poker I can hold my own, but can never quite win enough to cover the rakes in the long run. I can play the same $50 for hundreds or hours, but eventually get bored and sloppy. In person, I've only played local amateurs, who are not terribly skilled, and I dominate 8 games out of 10… but I have no way of relating that to playing in a casino. I can figure my outs and pot odds, almost instantly and accurately… and believe I'm better than average at picking up tells, but I've never tested myself against real players for real dough.

How did you get an invite from a Vegas Casino? I don't remember ever reading about you spending much time there?

Please tell your tale… I'm fascinated!

And of course, I wish you the best of luck and a lots of rushes before you suffer a dry spell.

Ps. Is it just me; or does Daniel Negreanu seem to have superhuman abilities to read his opponents?
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Roberta
 
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Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2007 01:50 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:

Ps. Is it just me; or does Daniel Negreanu seem to have superhuman abilities to read his opponents?


Not just you. The man is either psychic or a warlock.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2007 01:56 am
Oh, boy.

I don't know anything about all the odds, but I get the adventure. I sympathize insofar as I'd be a squashed pellet in a corporate place. Have my qualms re what you are going into, but if you ever need a place to land, you can have the 'living room'.

You will equilibrate as you age.. none of my business; I'll venture to say you'll pinpoint a place as a nest, maybe later than earlier, may avoid it at the time.

Good adventure along the way --
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2007 02:16 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:

Tell me; how good are you? I mean, how did you determine you are qualified? Have you played extensively in live tournaments? Live Casino games? Against Pros or amateurs? Online?


I've been frequenting casino poker for 2 years now (live cash games, tournaments only for fun). I've played a lot online but also mainly for fun. I play no-name pros (i.e. people who have been making a living off of poker for years but aren't on TV) every day and have played TV pros only a few times. For example I played a $5-$10 no-limit cash game 11-handed with Humberto Brenes and Arturo Morales and came out with a 50% gain on my money in 2 hours.

I can play a tight grinding game or a loose-agressive game where I don't play my cards and am comfortable switching gears. There are nuances I am always picking up and I'll never stop learning but I'm already good enough that I know that as long as I play at limits for which my bankroll supports a dry run I am going to be cash-flow positive.

And I know I'm good enough to go at least up to $25-50 when my bankroll supports that level.

Past that I have no idea (but will one day find out). Either way, I know I can make a living off the stakes I already can afford to play at.

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How did you get an invite from a Vegas Casino? I don't remember ever reading about you spending much time there?


I've actually never spent any time in Vegas. I'm going to be doing this in a casino here, which is both a bit scary (because there's a lot less poker action here) but also comforting (I can get by on very little if need be).

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Ps. Is it just me; or does Daniel Negreanu seem to have superhuman abilities to read his opponents?


Nah, he just talks about it more (so do I, and I think telling others what their cards are is something we both do too much). People like Chan and Ivey are better IMO but don't advertise it as much.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2007 02:18 am
On luck, I wish you the best. (I forgot that as I worked what I thought, out.)
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2007 02:20 am
No worries, as long as I don't have any REALLY bad luck within the next 8 weeks I'll be ok.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2007 02:21 am
Well, you could smack my gob with a feather, but I certainly do wish you great pleasure and enormous good fortune!!!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2007 02:26 am
Lucky people view misfortune as shortlived and overcome it quickly - hoping, you aren't (too) often in such a situation!

Good luck!!!
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2007 02:33 am
Zo.......(stroking fluffy white lap cat)....you sink you can beat me at Poker, eh Meester De Kere?

Vell, I vill geev you some teeps.

You zee, you haf to know ven to hold zem, und also know ven to fold zem, you alzo haf to know when to walk avay, und alzo ven to run.
Never count your money ven you are zitting at ze table, az zere vill be time enough for ze counting ven ze dealing ist done.

I sink zese vords vill make a mighty fine zong vun day.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2007 02:41 am
Cool dude. Obey your roll and keep us posted.
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jespah
 
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Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2007 05:41 am
Just don't bet the hamsters.

Seriously, best of luck to you. Smile
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2007 06:12 am
The gentleness of all the gods--and goddesses--go with you.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2007 07:42 am
Well, good luck!
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2007 07:46 am
I wish you lots of good luck! Very Happy
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Letty
 
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Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2007 08:18 am
http://www.high-search-engine-ranking.com/shamrock.gif


http://us.inmagine.com/168nwm/digitalvision/dv058/dv058011.jpg

Viva Los Vegas, Craven.
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JPB
 
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Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2007 08:19 am
Very cool. I play a lot of no-limit online holdem. I do great with play money (current balance is 6 digits), but I'm too chicken to play for real green. Best of luck and keep us posted.
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George
 
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Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2007 08:29 am
May Fortune smile upon you!

As I am the most risk-averse person you are ever likely to meet,
I think you are absolutely, positively out of your mind. (Well,
someone had to say it.) Nevertheless, I envy you your chuzpah.

Sock it to'em, Craven.







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