Atheists, smarter than religious people

I will let you guys have the final word, since you will never rest until you do. This is too time consuming for me, and nothing is being accomplished anyway.

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Frank Apisa wrote:

Any guess on the question is meaningless!

Do you believe that to be true regardless of context?

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OCCOM BILL wrote:

For clarification, Frank...
Frank, do you believe in Casper (the friendly ghost)? Yes, No or Maybe?

No.

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Do you believe in Vampires? Yes, No or Maybe?

No.

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Do you believe in Genie's? Yes, No or Maybe?

No.

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And finally, do you believe in Darth Vader? Yes, No or Maybe?

No.

Hope that was of help.

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Chumly wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
Any guess on the question is meaningless!
Do you believe that to be true regardless of context?

It is my opinion that ANY guess on the question of "There is a God/there are no gods"...is meaningless.

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I BELIEVE that Frank can be very tedious with his "bullsyte", "crap", moron, balony, etc., etc., ad nauseum.

What I cannot understand is why we continue to like him despite his incessant abuse.

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Maybe I worded the question wrong? Just for context; one more...
Frank, do you believe in God? Yes, No or Maybe?

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OCCOM BILL wrote:

Maybe I worded the question wrong? Just for context; one more...
Frank, do you believe in God? Yes, No or Maybe?

You definitely worded them wrong!

My answer to your last question is....NO!

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Reword them for me, will ya Frank. You know what I'm getting at. :wink:

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Frank Apisa wrote:

Chumly wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
Any guess on the question is meaningless!
Do you believe that to be true regardless of context?

It is my opinion that ANY guess on the question of "There is a God/there are no gods"...is meaningless.

By that token then, all efforts to suss out the divine, by whatever means, is by default, wholly without meaning?

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OCCOM BILL wrote:

Reword them for me, will ya Frank. You know what I'm getting at. :wink:

A better version would have been:

For clarification, Frank...

Frank, do you believe Casper (the friendly ghost) does not exist?

Do you believe Vampires do not exist?

Do you believe Genie's do not exist?

Do you believe Darth Vader does not exist?

And finally, do you believe gods do not exist?

That probably was what you were aiming at, right?

Twisted Evil

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Your guess is as good as mine....I guess?! Laughing

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Chumly wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
Chumly wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
Any guess on the question is meaningless!
Do you believe that to be true regardless of context?

It is my opinion that ANY guess on the question of "There is a God/there are no gods"...is meaningless.
By that token then, all efforts to suss out the divine, by whatever means, is by default, wholly without meaning?

Not sure what you mean by that...but I cannot think of a meaningful guess about whether or not a God or gods exist....based on the evidence available to us.

If you can think of one...I will consider it...and may have to retract!

But I honestly cannot think of a meaningful guess about the question.

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JL wrote:

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I BELIEVE that Frank can be very tedious with his "bullsyte", "crap", moron, balony, etc., etc., ad nauseum.

What I cannot understand is why we continue to like him despite his incessant abuse.

I am not abusing you. I am trying to get through to you. I have determined that being reasonable and courteous does not AND CANNOT work.

I am trying other methods.

For the recordI have often mentioned that I love every person in this forumand I do. (Well, maybe Asherman I don't love, but I certainly do not dislike him.)

I certainly love you, JL(normally I would add, "every bone in your head"but will resist.)and I appreciate that you do not dislike me even if you dislike my tactics.

Lovinglikinganyone here has absolutely nothing to do with the tone of the posts.

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Frank Apisa wrote:

Chumly wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
Chumly wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
Any guess on the question is meaningless!
Do you believe that to be true regardless of context?

It is my opinion that ANY guess on the question of "There is a God/there are no gods"...is meaningless.
By that token then, all efforts to suss out the divine, by whatever means, is by default, wholly without meaning?

Not sure what you mean by that...but I cannot think of a meaningful guess about whether or not a God or gods exist....based on the evidence available to us.

If you can think of one...I will consider it...and may have to retract!

But I honestly cannot think of a meaningful guess about the question.

It can be argued that some forms of art and music are efforts to suss out the divine.

It can be argued that cosmology is (indirectly) an effort to suss out the divine (of course not on the pretext that there is such a thing).

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I am trying to get through to you. I have determined that being reasonable and courteous does not AND CANNOT work.

That is especially full of bullshyt, Frank. Laughing

For one, I've known you for about 6 years and I don't remember you ever being reasonable and courteous (and only reasonable and courteous) for any significant stretch.

For another, how is THIS working out for you? Are you "getting through" to people with this silly, peurile abuse?

If anything I think that as a debate technique you're trying to rattle people, get them to attack you instead of the argument, which is pretty intellectually bankrupt. More so if you insist that you're doing it to enlighten them.

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I'm on the same wavelength with Frank on Asherman.

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Frank Apisa wrote:

OCCOM BILL wrote:
Reword them for me, will ya Frank. You know what I'm getting at. :wink:

A better version would have been:

For clarification, Frank...

Frank, do you believe Casper (the friendly ghost) does not exist?

Do you believe Vampires do not exist?

Do you believe Genie's do not exist?

Do you believe Darth Vader does not exist?

And finally, do you believe gods do not exist?

That probably was what you were aiming at, right?

Yes, that's perfect Frank, thank you. And your answers are?

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Frank, I do BELIEVE you, that you 'love' me.
But tell me, when did you switch from being civil to uncivil in order to get through to me (and others)? I missed that momentous moment.
Enjoy the game.

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Frank, I do BELIEVE you, that you 'love' me.
But tell me, when did you switch from being civil to uncivil in order to get through to me (and others)? I missed that momentous moment.
Enjoy the game.

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Hi Frank,

To clarify further (not that I don't appreciate sosobe's post):

If your belief is that any guess is meaningless, it would appear to logically follow that you then would be willing to say that any efforts to enable this guess must also be meaningless.

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