Mel Gibson's The Passion, sparking concern from the ADL.

I saw it tonight. Boring as hell.

Boring?
Wilso, were you not just a bit repulsed by the sado-masochistic, torture? I have read many reviews and have seen the trailers and I am sickened by just those. I don't think I could stand the actual viewing in surround sound. Seems that it is a snuff film, with torture and obscene violence. People that took or take their children under 12 should be charged with child abuse.

If Gibson is such a Christian maybe he will donate the millions he makes off of this crap to charity.

They did make a big thing of the beatings. But you're right, it did go too far. The simple fact is that no human being (son of god or otherwise ) could possibly survive the beating that was portrayed. To suggest that someone copped that and then proceeded to carry that cross over that distance is ludicrous.

And if I'd known that it was subtitled ancient hebrew throughout I wouldn't have gone at all.

I'm so tired of hearing about it that I'd take a beating if it would go away.

Yet you take the time to look at a thread on the subject?

You can't hear a thread.

Yes you can!

Ow, my ears!

Kirsten seems to prefer that because I'm tired of a subject that I should tune out completely rather than stay informed of other opinions etc.

You are just sticking around hoping for that beating.

And while in progress with it, call me Erma.

You may as well have that concern about every movie and every book. Some people are just nutcases, and you can't hold art to account for what a nutcase does in response to art. Otherwise, Shakespeare is responsible for every love-lorn teen who committed suicide.

I don't get it. IT'S A MOVIE. I haven't seen it yet, but even its detractors concede it is historically accurate, so if you want to complain, complain about history. Maybe we should make a movie where everyone is nice to Christ and they make him mayor of Jerusalem, where he marries, has kids, and grows old and dies in bed.

Seems to me the real issue here is that it is in vogue to attack Christianity. People just can't help themselves. "Mel Gibson made a movie about Christ? Jesus Christ! What the f@#$ was he thinking!" :wink:

And I also have to believe that--by and large--Jewish people must be doing okay these days if they have time to worry and kvetch about whether a movie about the death of Christ makes Jews of Christ's time look bad. I can't count how many movies in existence make Americans of the story's time look bad. Guess what? History shows us that Americans screwed up sometimes. That doesn't mean that all Americans always screw up, nor does it mean that Americans today are guilty of the sins of some group of Americans in the past.

One thing is certain: those people caterwauling about this movie have guaranteed it will make Gibson a nice pile of cash. Well done!

I want a movie of the last 24 hours of Satan's life before he was kicked into hell.

Brand

As it happens, I am writing that screenplay right now. Working title...
"The World's First Disgruntled Former Employee"

There is another thread in Film and I have seen the film. It is a commercial product, not an art film despite the sub-titles, and it carries on the bloodthirsy violence beyond reason and taste. The anti-Semitic elements are extrapolated beyond what is written in the Gospels and it's all to obvious that Gibson doesn't agree with the modern Catholic church. He also doesn't agree with historians in characterizing Pontius Pilate. Those reviewers who laud it should seek therepy.

One reviewer rightly called it "The Gospel According to the Marque de Sade."

The problem with the anti Passion critics is that they don't seem to, nor have understood, those of us who live in the 'flyover' states.

There has been, over the years, such an outpouring of anti religiousness in movies, newspapers and on t.v. by the media who don't live in the 'flyover' states that they seem to have forgotten the LARGE number of us that still have our faith, that still attend church regularly and still believe that God is the central pillar of our lives.

Some of you out there are atheist or agnostic and that is fine, you have the right to believe or disbelieve whatever you wish. I have friends who are Wiccan, some of you out there may be also, and thats great too. I have a friend who is a genuine Odin worshiper, unique but it works for him.

Each and every one of you has your own form of beliefs or non-belief and it is important that you are given the freedom to practice them without interference or persecution.

Unfortunately, in recent times, it has become 'allowable' to mock and denigrate those with faith in the Christian faith. Even the 'mainstream' media have seemed to slant their stories away from or totally ignore any story showing people with true faith in their religion or their God. Many seem to think it is acceptable to paint every believer as some sort of right wing religious wacko who loves sending their money to televangelists or as abortion clinic bombers just waiting to happen. They forget the millions of people who have faith in their God and yet have no problem accepting others beliefs and yet see their faith mocked on a regular basis.

I will be going to see this movie on Friday and from what my friends that have seen it have told me, it is a truly life altering film. If this type of film isn't your 'cup of tea', thats fine, but please don't mock those of us who will take some manner of spiritual gain from the experience.

If they had only filmed the last day of my divorce...

I heard a discussion on tv last night that talked about this movie. What I heard was that it has gratuitous violence to show the suffering of Jesus to show his "love" for man. Since I'm an atheist, it's my observation that many christians will "eat it up," while some Jews will decry it. If Mel Gibson wanted controversy, he certainly gained it by producing this movie.

Regardless of belief, Jesus existed and those things happened to him.

Many people worship him for what he did. In fact, the majority of the world is now Christian. Why should they not be entitled to a movie that depicts the horror their savior went through to save them from themselves?

Are those of us that are non-christian so envious of their beliefs that all we can do is belittle them? I would think that we would be above that as we would not want them to belittle our own.

All movies are "art", just as all paintings are "art". Some are good, some bad, some it's a matter of opinion.

Of course, I love that way you offer your opinion and cite opinions with which you agree as fact. "It is..." "...it carries..." "The anti-Semitic elements are..." "...it's all to obvious that Gibson..." "He also..." "Those reviewers who laud it should..." "One reviewer rightly called it..."

To quote the Church Lady, "We like ourselves, don't we?"