Lola wrote:You do not listen to arguments and think about it as george does.
I listen differently. And I'm still waiting for your "arguments".
Quote:So any exchange we'll have is an exercise in, as I said before, sadomasochism.
You're the one who presented the following "argument":
Quote:...we both have our reasons. And we're not going to convince each other, so let's stop trying. OK?
It would be more honest to say that you don't have arguments and that you just want to believe what you want to believe.
:wink:
Maligar,
I have arguments, so it would not be honest at all to say that I don't. But I mean it, it feels futile with you. Maybe I'm not being fair, but in any case, I can't do it right now. What you ask of me will take too much time, more than I have right now. But I mean it, later I'll try. It's a subject of interest to me.
george
The quote was 'dumb' because it attributes the demand for abortion services not to the women who seek it, but by positing a demonic provider. The characterization is not just faulty in fact, but extremely lazy in thought.
(I'd like to see a new avatar here, a combination of two... a Mountie with long, black-stockinged legs. Please.)
LOL Tartarin. I didn't get it at first. Very funny and nice. We'll have to work on it. Laughing.
Good enough, Beth. Very funny.
Just thought I'd revive this topic with an update.
Melvin has gone completely insane:
Quote:The holy war over "The Passion," Mel Gibson's movie on Jesus Christ, is raging on all fronts. The Anti-Defamation League is condemning Gibson's latest defense of his movie, made in an article by Peter Boyer in the new New Yorker.
Part of the brouhaha stems from Gibson's interest in Anne Catherine Emmerich, a 19th-century Augustinian nun in Germany who recounted visions of Christ's Crucifixion that some regard as anti-Semitic. Gibson, who carries a piece of her habit as a relic, asks:
"Why are they calling her a Nazi? Because modern secular Judaism wants to blame the Holocaust on the Catholic Church. And it's revisionism. And they've been working on that one for a while."
"To me, this [comment] is classic anti-Semitism," ADL National Director Abraham Foxman told us.
Foxman, who survived the Holocaust because Catholic clergy baptized him to shield him from the Nazis, added, "I think [Gibson] is on the fringes of anti-Semitism."
Gibson also lays his lash on New York Times columnist Frank Rich. Responding to remarks about the Holocaust made in The Times by Gibson's father, Hutton Gibson, Rich accused the actor's camp of using "PR spin to defend a Holocaust denier."
Mel Gibson says of Rich, "I want to kill him. I want his intestines on a stick.... I want to kill his dog." (Rich told us, through a Times spokeswoman, "I don't have a dog.")
NY Daily News
Mel Gibson for CA governor. Why settle for Arnold?
I know that most Hollywood stars are under therepy but I hadn't realized that one of them had been committed and escaped.
Quote:During a recent interview on a Chicago radio station, actor Russell Crowe taunted Gibson for making "The Passion," his controversial film about Jesus's last day. "Well, if what I've heard about it is fair dinkum [aka "true"] that he spent $25 million making a movie that's shot in Aramaic and Latin and he's intending to release it without subtitles, I think he's got to get off the glue," Crowe, clearly not one of Gibson's defenders, told his interviewer. "What's the point of making a movie where people can't understand what's going on? I don't understand that. If you want it for reality or whatever, I think, 'Wow, what an amazing idea,' but also what a waste of time if nobody can get what the point is..."
"Get off the glue..." heh heh heh
I know something. I'll tell it to you, but in a language you don't understand. That means you're stupid. That makes me superior.
Yrs in Christ,
Mel
You mean the general public doesn't speak Latin? Their loss.
I bet Mel doesn't either.
it's funny that what this movie means to many is MONEY..........lots of it. Watch the merchandise, books (with pix), etc. that spin off. Some people are going to get rich, rich, rich. That is the real point of all this.
Lola wrote:it's funny that what this movie means to many is MONEY..........lots of it. Watch the merchandise, books (with pix), etc. that spin off. Some people are going to get rich, rich, rich. That is the real point of all this.
Indeed...just like religion.
Stepping up to the plate to 'defend' religion (not really home plate, or maybe home plate at an away game)...
I do think religious behavior and organization a rather complex matter. Animists, for example, are doing something quite interesting and certainly quite different than what we do at mass. Likewise those traditions which involve trance inducing activities (dervishes, some zen practices, etc). And there is much about our religious traditions which seem quite identical to what Rotarians are up to.
yes, well religions come in many shapes and sizes. I have very little use for religion. I like to go to the racquetball court for my worship.
Mel's movie may be a lot of things. But one thing it will be is a big money maker. That's guaranteed.
I will not be seeing the movie. I can't abide all that suffering.........it makes me sick.
Given the enormously wide range of film & media entertainments now available to all, on material ranging from historicaL to dramatic, to talk & game shows, and to pornography, why should this film, which none of us has yet seen, raise so much interest? What makes it so threatening to those here who appear to take such umbrage with it, that is not also present in many other such entertainments?
Lola has suggested the motive behind it is money. Is that in any way remarkable or unusual? Others have suggested it will turn out to have been a foolish waste of money, and that no one will understand it. Either could be true, and none of us yet knows.
Could it be that the Inquisitors of secularism are, after all, no different than those who have gone before them?
