Why does the god of the Bible consider slavery to be moral??

If God wrote the Bible than he's the one playing games.

Look at all those people out there who think they know what he's saying.

The only place that God is real is in the minds of the believers.

RexRed wrote:

I see no clear "Biblical" directive to take slaves other than to civilize them and eventually grant them their freedom.

in Leviticus 25:44-46 Moses quoting God wrote:

45 As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you.

46 You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property.

47 You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly.

Seems quite clear to me. Forever does not mean eventual freedom.

in Numbers 31:17-18 Moses quoting God wrote:

"17 Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him.

"18 But all the young girls who have not known man by lying with him keep alive for yourselves.

So you think that "civilizing" is what was in store for those children?

Neo made the statement that Jesus was the perfect man, the man to replace Adam.

But was Jesus perfect?

What is perfect?

Is invading the temple and beating people because you don't like the way they practice their religion perfect?

Is intolerance and the use of violence perfect?

Is living a communistic lifestyle perfect?

Is having a bad temper perfect?

Neo made the statement that Jesus was the perfect man, the man to . . . Is invading the temple and beating people because you don't like the way they practice their religion perfect?

Is intolerance and the use of violence perfect?

Is living a communistic lifestyle perfect?

Is having a bad temper perfect?

How can one please a God that is so fickle. And why do we have to please God? Are we his slaves? Is that what life is all about; our only purpose for existance is to give pleasure to God?

If that is so then you have given us an excellent reason to see the God in the Bible as a false God; a creature made by man.

xingu wrote:

Neo made the statement that Jesus was the perfect man, the man to . . . Is invading the temple and beating people because you don't like the way they practice their religion perfect?

Is intolerance and the use of violence perfect?

Is living a communistic lifestyle perfect?

Is having a bad temper perfect?

This has to be one of the most ridiculous criticisms of Jesus' activities I have ever heard.

The money changers Jesus drove out of the temple were extorting money from those Jews who had to travel long distances for temple worship. They ripped them off in the exchange rate, then ripped them again in the price charged for animals to sacrifice. The profits did not go to the temple. They went into the money changers' pockets.

He was supposed to be his father's chief representative. What would you expect him to do?

A bad temper? You're joking, right?

A bad temper? You're joking, right?

12 And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry:
13 And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet.
14 And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it...

20 And in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots.
21 And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away.

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Is killing a tree for not bearing fruit out of season a reasonable response by any standard?

mesquite wrote:

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Is killing a tree for not bearing fruit out of season a reasonable response by any standard?

Except that it represents the judgement against those who claim to represent God, but fail to do his will. (Matthew 7: 21-23)

neologist wrote:

xingu wrote:

Neo made the statement that Jesus was the perfect man, the man to . . . Is invading the temple and beating people because you don't like the way they practice their religion perfect?

Is intolerance and the use of violence perfect?

Is living a communistic lifestyle perfect?

Is having a bad temper perfect?

This has to be one of the most ridiculous criticisms of Jesus' activities I have ever heard.

The money changers Jesus drove out of the temple were extorting money from those Jews who had to travel long distances for temple worship. They ripped them off in the exchange rate, then ripped them again in the price charged for animals to sacrifice. The profits did not go to the temple. They went into the money changers' pockets.

He was supposed to be his father's chief representative. What would you expect him to do?

A bad temper? You're joking, right?

. . . Jesus wasn't angry for any ripoff. He didn't believe in animal sacrifice. So what if they sacrificed animals. They had been doing it for hundreds of years. Now comes along some joker who claims he speaks for God and tells them to stop. They ignore him so he takes his band of thugs and drives them out of the Temple. . . .

neologist wrote:

mesquite wrote:

. . .
Is killing a tree for not bearing fruit out of season a reasonable response by any standard?

Except that it represents the judgement against those who claim to represent God, but fail to do his will. (Matthew 7: 21-23)

Fail to do Gods will. So we're his slaves. Do his will or die.

"Do not eat from the fruit of a certain tree" is about as stupid as they come, knowing that humans would eventually enjoy eating most of the non-poisonous fruits this world has to offer.

Is god so simple-minded that he must command man not to eat fruit? What a dork!

xingu wrote:

neologist wrote:

mesquite wrote:

. . .
Is killing a tree for not bearing fruit out of season a reasonable response by any standard?

Except that it represents the judgement against those who claim to represent God, but fail to do his will. (Matthew 7: 21-23)

Fail to do Gods will. So we're his slaves. Do his will or die.

What quarrel do you have with this command? "Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving upon the earth." (Genesis 1:28)

Would it place any burden upon you? Suppose there were only one additional: To not eat the fruit of a certain tree. Would that be OK?

Well, were it not for the intervention of a certain rebel, this would be the only obligation of man.

Not a bad form of slavery, IMHO.

neologist wrote:

xingu wrote:

neologist wrote:

mesquite wrote:

. . .
Is killing a tree for not bearing fruit out of season a reasonable response by any standard?

Except that it represents the judgement against those who claim to represent God, but fail to do his will. (Matthew 7: 21-23)

Fail to do Gods will. So we're his slaves. Do his will or die.

What quarrel do you have with this command? "Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving upon the earth." (Genesis 1:28)

Would it place any burden upon you? Suppose there were only one additional: To not eat the fruit of a certain tree. Would that be OK?

Well, were it not for the intervention of a certain rebel, this would be the only obligation of man.

Not a bad form of slavery, IMHO.

Changing the subject, hey Neo?

We talked about being a slave to God; obey me or die and you change the subject and up some unrelated Genesis crap.

What does Genesis 1:28 have to do with Matthew 7 21-23?

What problem do you and your God have with people using their free will and believing anything they choose without being punished? You don't like freedom of religion?

Your God doesn't.