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Swimpy's Landscaping Thread

 
 
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Wed 21 Mar, 2007 09:34 pm
Yes, littlek, I can keep them all year long at the same spot, but once
they're finished blooming, I usually buy a new plant. If the old one looks
promising, they'll go to the "recovery room" - if not, I'll toss them.
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littlek
 
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Reply Wed 21 Mar, 2007 09:36 pm
The 'recovery room' leads to what?
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Wed 21 Mar, 2007 09:44 pm
New bloom! Smile
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littlek
 
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Reply Wed 21 Mar, 2007 10:01 pm
Oh! Is the recovery room inside or out? Sunny or dark?
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Wed 21 Mar, 2007 11:40 pm
It's outside and in a rather dark corner of the yard.
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Swimpy
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2007 07:19 am
Sorry, I had to go to bed last night. I'll take a look at all of your suggestions, K.
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Swimpy
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2007 09:57 am
littlek wrote:
CJ -
Swimpy - what would you say to metalic purple (like no other color in nature) berries?


Tell me more!
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littlek
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2007 10:05 am
Oh! I have been trying to get people to plant this plant for years. It's called American Beautyberry, or Callicarpa americana. It's a wildish suckering shrub. It probably grows to about 12 feet. Native. Birds and mammals like the berries. The leaves can relieve mosquito bites. It's only hardy to zone 6 - are you zone 6 or 5?

http://www.caes.uga.edu/departments/hort/extension/goldmedal/winners/2002/images/Beautyberry-1.jpg
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2007 10:07 am
Oooh, I like that one! Would be great for one of the corners of my backyard. (Shade-tolerant?)
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littlek
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2007 10:14 am
You know, I find that the zone range is uncertain. I know it grows here, because I've seen it at the arboretum. This says it'll grow in zone 5.

Soz, it's an understory plant, it can take full sun, but probably likes a little shade. Like any plant, the less ideal the location, the fewer the flowers/berries.

Here's another link. Oh, and this says it grows to 5-6 feet tall, not 12. Once a plant gets over about 6 feet, I find it hard to gage the height, especially from memory.

http://www.mobot.org/gardeninghelp/plantfinder/Plant.asp?code=J590
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littlek
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2007 10:21 am
There's a very nice looking variegated variety with white berries.

http://www.brokenarrownursery.com/callicarpa_duet.jpg

Here's a link to the national arboretum on the Callicarpa 'Duet'

callicarpa duet
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Swimpy
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2007 02:25 pm
I'm in Zone 4b. I like the look and the berries, but the suckering characteristic has me a little scared. Will it take over my yard?
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 23 Mar, 2007 06:10 pm
Checking in... I'm not so familiar with your zone, but I'm going to nose around and see if I find anything for you to look at. Back in a bit.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 23 Mar, 2007 06:43 pm
OK, I figured out you're in Sunset Garden Zone 43. Now to see if my Sunset book goes there (I think it doesn't, think it only goes to 24).

Sunset Gardens zones aren't based only on cold hardiness but also the plants temperament re heat. Here's a map -
http://www.sunset.com/sunset/garden/article/1,20633,845218,00.html

Oh, well, it seems of no use since I don't see any real way to work out equivalence. Will go with the 4b USDA Hardiness and look stuff up in my Sunset book and online.
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littlek
 
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Reply Fri 23 Mar, 2007 07:14 pm
Suckering means it sends new branches up from the ground. For some plants, the suckering can be invasive. This one sounds like it won't sucker all over the yard.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 23 Mar, 2007 07:18 pm
Not to argue that, but plants that sucker - either you get rid of the suckers or you leave them, sucker city, but the form is sort of antithetical to, say, an azalea garden. Well, sometimes. Before I mouth off, I should look at the plant again, as japanese maples, which go fantastically with azaleas, also sucker.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 24 Mar, 2007 02:01 pm
Been through a bunch of lists, including that native list I linked somewhere early on in the thread. Have another whole site to look through..
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Swimpy
 
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Reply Sat 24 Mar, 2007 04:51 pm
Osso, we have two japanese maples that are at least 10 years olds. Suckering has never been a problem. The jap. maples are staying one in the bakyard and one in the front as well as the large red maple in the backyard. I agree with you that he's putting too many azaleas in. I like them, but we already have a bunch of them that are staying. I'd like something else that will complement thiose plants.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2007 11:20 pm
Some lists -
the ohio list looks really useful, but their zone is now 6A, so you'd have to double check if things would work in 4B...


http://www.outdoorns.com/countrygardener/issue5.html
http://www.rittenhouse.ca/hortmag/Bruce/birds.asp
http://ohioline.osu.edu/w-fact/0013.html
http://highcountrygardens.com/catalog/search/products/attract+hummingbirds

I've a bunch of plants that I listed as I was looking at the Iowa native plant link for things that might look ok in the same garden with azaleas and grasses, and some I listed when I went through Sunset's bird and butterfly lists - will post those tomorrow (getting late now).
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2007 11:22 pm
(and that variegated calicarpa looks really nice - that was on one of my lists too).
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