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Massive Demonstrations - again

 
 
Reply Sat 28 Jun, 2003 08:46 am
Just prior to the Iraq war of "liberation" the peoples of the Earth demonstrated mightily against it. Now, as Bush seems stronger than ever, a renewed call for the same thing seems to me to be in order. The urgency has not receded, just the impulse to act. What about it? How can we get people to act instead of passively grumbling? It seems to me that protestors build up a momentum which could lead to eventual change, over and over since and during the 60s, and then let the pressure off of the politicians. When they do start up again, they have to build their case all over again, being less effective because so many would be sympathizers have either given in to futility or have to be convinced all over again. Protest has to be a way of life, not a chosen battle here, an email there.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jun, 2003 09:02 am
When the time is right, ed.

The pot is on slow simmer.

Patience. It's going to be a an excellent soup, in time.

(I can't quite make out what that is in your avatar...)
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jun, 2003 09:03 am
Oh, it's Lulu and (whatever the other one's name was)!
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NeoGuin
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jun, 2003 10:21 am
edgar:

There was a great article in "The Nation" that alluded to this.

But how much longer can we wait.

If we wait too long the next movement may be a bit more--aggressive. . .
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jun, 2003 11:36 am
It has to play like a fine orchestra, and like a fine orchestra it has to stay in practice to be effective. We got to stay right in der president's face.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jun, 2003 11:37 am
Totally
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mamajuana
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jun, 2003 01:10 pm
Couldn't agree more. Timing is always important. It will be interesting to see what happens in NYC, when the GOP descends on it.

I have a gut feeling that things are beginning to implode for the admin, but that could be hunger, since I haven't eaten yet.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jun, 2003 01:16 pm
It better hurry up and implode then - Things don't look too smooth for our side from where I sit.
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sweetcomplication
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jun, 2003 05:22 pm
NeoGuin: is this the article from The Nation to which you referred?

http://www.thenation.com/thebeat/index.mhtml?bid=1&pid=159
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NeoGuin
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jun, 2003 07:04 pm
No.

I believe it was by Schnell.

Not on-line Sad
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2003 09:08 am
As I say these things, I have the feeling it will be in vain. Bush has most voters of the mentality: "Get them before they get us." I fear that means the public will very willingly accept millions of innocent Muslim deaths if there is a chance it will lesson the probability of even one more 911 attack. Kill whole nations to save a few American lives. They will not elect a Democrat because they percieve a shift away from that strategy if they do.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2003 09:14 am
If I were an unknown Democratic presidential candidate I would study the tactic of R. Nixon in 1968. He said, "I have a secret plan to end the war in Vietnam." Once elected, he admitted the statement was only a ploy to get himself elected. And of course he immediately set in motion his notion of an expanded war. I would study the possibility of making it seem I would outshrub the Bush in his policy of aggression. Once elected, of course, revert to a sane policy. Just a whimsy..
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2003 09:41 am
edgar, I'm taking it as my personal responsibility to make sure that doesn't happen.

I'm more of the mind that as the thousand cuts start to ooze, as the dozens of pots simmering begin to reach 212 degrees, that there aren't enough orange alerts to con even 49.99% of the electorate twice.

A lot of things can happen in 15 months--another terrorist attack, another war that needs fighting, a national economy that continues 'ooching'--and none of them are good for Commander Codpiece.

(OTOH, if those don't happen and the economy improves--fo' mo' yeahs.)
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2003 09:46 am
I'm just venting this morning. Won't give up the fight, ever.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2003 04:17 pm
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Folks, Bush has gone too far, too many times. He is a one-man wrecking crew, destroying, bit by bit, what decent men and women have created and improved upon for 227 years.

We have to stop him. We have to do it soon. If we don't, we won't have an America to protect.

Perhaps some of you can't see the forest for the trees. Perhaps you're too close to the picture to see it clearly. But, I assure you, the rest of the world knows what's going on in America. The rest of the world is aghast. "What is happening to America?" they ask. "Why don't the Americans do something about Bush?"

Last week I got an unbelievably heavy surge of e-mail from readers. And roughly 80 percent had the same question: "What can I do?"

What can I do? What can anybody do? Does it help to write to members of Congress? Should I write letters to the editor? Please, please, tell me, what can I do?

My answer last week was, "I don't know." But I've been thinking about it, and I've come up with a few ideas that might actually work, if we're lucky.

And if we're good.


What YOU can do about Bush
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2003 06:09 pm
Good column, PDiddie
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