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A gravestone carving from 1862

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 12:49 pm
Asherman wrote:

The grave site of Mary Murphy dated 1788 is certainly an anomaly. How did a person who died in 1788 get into a cemetery that didn't even exist until 60 years after her death?


I've mentioned that already above: in one source I found yesterday it is said that headstones/tombs from 12 other (older) cemeteries were send to Oakwood Cemetary (can't refind that source now anymore).
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Asherman
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 01:02 pm
Yes, Walter, I do remember your saying that. It would be nice to know where the other cemetaries were located, and when the graves were transfered to Oakwood. Were any of the reintered dated from 1835 to 1860? Any relocation of graves in the Austin area dated earlier than 1835 would still be a minor mystery.

The Austin Insane Asylum, which is still in operation, apparently has been continuously handling patients since its completion in 1861.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 01:29 pm
It is not uncommon for alot of the graves there to be noted that they were 'moved' .

I just got home a few minutes ago and will upload some more pictures now.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 01:40 pm
Here they are-

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/5949/1hs2.jpg
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 01:40 pm
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/448/2go4.jpg
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 01:42 pm
I did find one that is marked with personal info, but even THAT is limited..

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/1169/3at3.jpg
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 01:43 pm
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/8131/4px4.jpg
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 01:45 pm
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7655/5bk8.jpg
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 01:48 pm
Sharing the same plot space shown from behind on the right hand side of one picture above is this one -
( this does NOT fall in lines with what the keeper told me before..)

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9589/7kt1.jpg
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 01:52 pm
Other examples of stars on headstones for various reasons/organizations etc..


http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8099/8me8.jpg


Freemason symbols-
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7607/9ma5.jpg
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 01:54 pm
Another common symbol -


http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/5477/10tb9.jpg
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 01:57 pm
And here is a police officer star emblem from 1880-

Wich leads me to believe that it is not any kind of texas ranger / officer etc

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9234/11bc1.jpg
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Asherman
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 01:59 pm
Ah ha! A stone with a name and a death date of 1889. If the markers at one time had names and dates on them, we can dismiss the idea of pauper or anonymous graves. The amount of weathering is much greater than I would have expected for late 19th, early 20th century burials. Oh well .....

Its also interesting to see that the graves are all located within a concrete curbed area.

I think with this latest information the finger is pointing strongly toward Odd Fellow burials. There were active Odd Fellows in Texas as early as 1837, and in that period many of them were also Masons.

The local Odd Fellows may have a record of E.F. Hooke, and that would pretty much resolve most of the puzzle.

I'm still interested in the story behind the presence of Mary Murhpy's 1788 burial in Oakwood.

Shewolf, you've really done a bang up job. The photo enhancement revealing what looked like the three-linked Odd Fellows chain appears to have been a major clue.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 02:08 pm
One other thing i was thinking was , a railroad spike.

Turned sideways?

They could have been casualties of a railroad building accident?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 02:09 pm
Thanks for the photos and your work, shewolf!

---

Southwestern University history professor Martha Norkunas:
Quote:
There were separate sections for blacks, Mexican Americans, Jews and Catholics. There are many unmarked pauper's graves.
source:
News8Austin from today!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 02:09 pm
Thanks for the photos and your work, shewolf!

---

Southwestern University history professor Martha Norkunas:
Quote:
There were separate sections for blacks, Mexican Americans, Jews and Catholics. There are many unmarked pauper's graves.
source:
News8Austin from today!
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 02:09 pm
So are all of them No. 138, or were those alternate views/ lighting of the original one?
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 02:11 pm
they are all marked 138
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 02:13 pm
And one other common 'star' found on alot of the headstones..

wich i believe is the north star ? Of freemasons? something like that.. (shaking head) im not positive..

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5326/12kx9.jpg
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 02:21 pm
And a bit off topic but,

some of the reasons I love this place -

( sorry.. cant help it Wink this is a passion of mine.. )

The rich folks-

some of these are over 120,000$

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/7930/13cl3.jpg



http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2572/14zn4.jpg


http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/5238/15ih7.jpg


http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6950/16jl7.jpg


http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/5196/17oz9.jpg
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