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Reply Thu 4 Jan, 2007 12:46 pm
& so is Robert Byrd as pres pro tem in the senate.
ROTFLMAO
We're in for some more Weekend At Bernies. lol
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jan, 2007 03:16 pm
Re: Now Pelosi Is In.....
LoneStarMadam wrote:
& so is Robert Byrd as pres pro tem in the senate.
ROTFLMAO
We're in for some more Weekend At Bernies. lol

I'm glad someone found that amusing.
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jan, 2007 03:21 pm
Re: Now Pelosi Is In.....
joefromchicago wrote:
LoneStarMadam wrote:
& so is Robert Byrd as pres pro tem in the senate.
ROTFLMAO
We're in for some more Weekend At Bernies. lol

I'm glad someone found that amusing.

You don't see the humor in a wannbe Shakespere as old as the original as pro tem of the us senate? Come on, I'll bet even saddam is laughing at that.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jan, 2007 03:27 pm
Re: Now Pelosi Is In.....
LoneStarMadam wrote:
You don't see the humor in a wannbe Shakespere as old as the original as pro tem of the us senate? Come on, I'll bet even saddam is laughing at that.

I'll take that bet.
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jan, 2007 03:32 pm
Madam
Saddam laughs no more.
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jan, 2007 03:43 pm
au1929 wrote:
Madam
Saddam laughs no more.

My suspicions are correct i see, no humor here. Oh well, some here as as dead as saddam is.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jan, 2007 03:56 pm
LoneStarMadam wrote:
My suspicions are correct i see, no humor here. Oh well, some here as as dead as saddam is.

Just because you can't see the humor doesn't mean it's not there. Remember, we're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you.
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jan, 2007 04:00 pm
joefromchicago wrote:
LoneStarMadam wrote:
My suspicions are correct i see, no humor here. Oh well, some here as as dead as saddam is.

Just because you can't see the humor doesn't mean it's not there. Remember, we're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you.

& you think i thought that you might say something different than what you did? Sorry to disappoint you, but I can recognize a sourpuss when i see one. It is widely known that liberals see a glass as half empty rather than half full, doomsdayers to the end.
BTW-your laughing at me is a compliment for me, thanks. I really would be concerned should you find anything I said funny or correct.
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jan, 2007 04:08 pm
Madam
Laugh and the world laughs with you cry and you cry alone. Cheer up all is not lost. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jan, 2007 04:15 pm
au1929 wrote:
Madam
Laugh and the world laughs with you cry and you cry alone. Cheer up all is not lost. Laughing Laughing Laughing

I'm not crying, I'm very happy that Byrd is pro tem, it's good for the late night comedians, & our answer to Bagdad Bob. Then too, we can once again enjoy Weekend at bernies
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jan, 2007 04:19 pm
What is your problem after all we have had a brain dead president for the last six years.
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jan, 2007 04:26 pm
au1929 wrote:
What is your problem after all we have had a brain dead president for the last six years.

Whatever that has to do Bobby Byrd. I'm not impressed with Bush, but that doesn't mean that I automatically give the other brain dead nimrods a pass. Do you let the lawmakers get by with criminal acts just because you don't like Bush? Problem? It sounds like you're the one with the problem.
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jan, 2007 04:43 pm
Criminal acts
This is the most corrupt administration of my life time [ and that's a long,long time}. As for the republican dominated bought and paid for congress . A thorough investigation would end up with half of them in jail.
Before you get your knickers in a bind. Yes there are unscrupulous members on both sides of the isle. `
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jan, 2007 04:57 pm
au1929 wrote:
Criminal acts
This is the most corrupt administration of my life time [ and that's a long,long time}. As for the republican dominated bought and paid for congress . A thorough investigation would end up with half of them in jail.
Before you get your knickers in a bind. Yes there are unscrupulous members on both sides of the isle. `

Ok, I agree with the corruption on both sides, took you long enough to admit it though.
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jan, 2007 05:06 pm
Madam
However as the saying goes this fish stinks from the head. Rolling Eyes
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jan, 2007 05:11 pm
What do we have in the White house now. The devil's spawn and his sidekick the horses ass. Laughing
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jan, 2007 05:11 pm
For the moment, I will treat this topic far more seriously than it deserves.

The post of president pro tempore (PPT) of the senate is largely a ceremonial job. Unlike the speaker of the house, who wields significant power, the PPT doesn't hand out committee assignments or decide which bills get considered for debate -- that's the job of the majority leader. Indeed, the vice-president is president of the senate, the PPT is only nominally in charge when the VP is not wielding the gavel (which is why he is president "pro tempore" -- "for the time being").

Because it is largely a ceremonial post, there's no great competition for the job. So, by tradition, it is given to the most senior member of the majority party. Robert Byrd, who outranks all of his fellow Democrats by virtue of having served in the senate for approximately 400,000 years, thus became the PPT upon the accession of the Democrats to the majority. Prior to that, Ted Stevens of Alaska was PPT.

For a truly geriatric PPT, we need look no farther than early 2001, when Strom Thurmond of South Carolina was PPT. Thurmond, born in the late Mesozoic Era, became PPT during the last stages of a long mental decline that began around 1954, when he first entered the senate. That he was a withered, senile old racist coot didn't prevent his colleagues from elevating him to a post that put him third in line to succeed to the presidency. So, if Robert Byrd as PPT is laugh-out-loud funny, I'm sure LSM was positively pissing herself when Strom Thurmond occupied the same post.
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jan, 2007 05:12 pm
au1929 wrote:
Madam
However as the saying goes this fish stinks from the head. Rolling Eyes

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jan, 2007 05:13 pm
au1929 wrote:
Madam
However as the saying goes this fish stinks from the head. Rolling Eyes

However that saying goes has nothing to do with your not admitting to corruption on the dem side of the aisle, as a matter of fact, there's still at least 4 there now. Why don't you call for their departure?
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revel
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jan, 2007 05:25 pm
Re: Now Pelosi Is In.....
LoneStarMadam wrote:
& so is Robert Byrd as pres pro tem in the senate.
ROTFLMAO
We're in for some more Weekend At Bernies. lol


Oh yea, Bryrd is quite the bungled speaker. Rolling Eyes

Quote:
We Stand Passively Mute

Wednesday 12 February 2003

"To contemplate war is to think about the most horrible of human experiences. On this February day, as this nation stands at the brink of battle, every American on some level must be contemplating the horrors of war.

Yet, this Chamber is, for the most part, silent -- ominously, dreadfully silent. There is no debate, no discussion, no attempt to lay out for the nation the pros and cons of this particular war. There is nothing.

We stand passively mute in the United States Senate, paralyzed by our own uncertainty, seemingly stunned by the sheer turmoil of events. Only on the editorial pages of our newspapers is there much substantive discussion of the prudence or imprudence of engaging in this particular war.

And this is no small conflagration we contemplate. This is no simple attempt to defang a villain. No. This coming battle, if it materializes, represents a turning point in U.S. foreign policy and possibly a turning point in the recent history of the world.

This nation is about to embark upon the first test of a revolutionary doctrine applied in an extraordinary way at an unfortunate time. The doctrine of preemption -- the idea that the United States or any other nation can legitimately attack a nation that is not imminently threatening but may be threatening in the future -- is a radical new twist on the traditional idea of self defense. It appears to be in contravention of international law and the UN Charter. And it is being tested at a time of world-wide terrorism, making many countries around the globe wonder if they will soon be on our -- or some other nation's -- hit list. High level Administration figures recently refused to take nuclear weapons off of the table when discussing a possible attack against Iraq. What could be more destabilizing and unwise than this type of uncertainty, particularly in a world where globalism has tied the vital economic and security interests of many nations so closely together? There are huge cracks emerging in our time-honored alliances, and U.S. intentions are suddenly subject to damaging worldwide speculation. Anti-Americanism based on mistrust, misinformation, suspicion, and alarming rhetoric from U.S. leaders is fracturing the once solid alliance against global terrorism which existed after September 11.

Here at home, people are warned of imminent terrorist attacks with little guidance as to when or where such attacks might occur. Family members are being called to active military duty, with no idea of the duration of their stay or what horrors they may face. Communities are being left with less than adequate police and fire protection. Other essential services are also short-staffed. The mood of the nation is grim. The economy is stumbling. Fuel prices are rising and may soon spike higher.

This Administration, now in power for a little over two years, must be judged on its record. I believe that that record is dismal.

In that scant two years, this Administration has squandered a large projected surplus of some $5.6 trillion over the next decade and taken us to projected deficits as far as the eye can see. This Administration's domestic policy has put many of our states in dire financial condition, under funding scores of essential programs for our people. This Administration has fostered policies which have slowed economic growth. This Administration has ignored urgent matters such as the crisis in health care for our elderly. This Administration has been slow to provide adequate funding for homeland security. This Administration has been reluctant to better protect our long and porous borders.

In foreign policy, this Administration has failed to find Osama bin Laden. In fact, just yesterday we heard from him again marshaling his forces and urging them to kill. This Administration has split traditional alliances, possibly crippling, for all time, International order-keeping entities like the United Nations and NATO. This Administration has called into question the traditional worldwide perception of the United States as well-intentioned, peacekeeper. This Administration has turned the patient art of diplomacy into threats, labeling, and name calling of the sort that reflects quite poorly on the intelligence and sensitivity of our leaders, and which will have consequences for years to come.

Calling heads of state pygmies, labeling whole countries as evil, denigrating powerful European allies as irrelevant -- these types of crude insensitivities can do our great nation no good. We may have massive military might, but we cannot fight a global war on terrorism alone. We need the cooperation and friendship of our time-honored allies as well as the newer found friends whom we can attract with our wealth. Our awesome military machine will do us little good if we suffer another devastating attack on our homeland which severely damages our economy. Our military manpower is already stretched thin and we will need the augmenting support of those nations who can supply troop strength, not just sign letters cheering us on.

The war in Afghanistan has cost us $37 billion so far, yet there is evidence that terrorism may already be starting to regain its hold in that region. We have not found bin Laden, and unless we secure the peace in Afghanistan, the dark dens of terrorism may yet again flourish in that remote and devastated land.

Pakistan as well is at risk of destabilizing forces. This Administration has not finished the first war against terrorism and yet it is eager to embark on another conflict with perils much greater than those in Afghanistan. Is our attention span that short? Have we not learned that after winning the war one must always secure the peace?

And yet we hear little about the aftermath of war in Iraq. In the absence of plans, speculation abroad is rife. Will we seize Iraq's oil fields, becoming an occupying power which controls the price and supply of that nation's oil for the foreseeable future? To whom do we propose to hand the reigns of power after Saddam Hussein?

Will our war inflame the Muslim world resulting in devastating attacks on Israel? Will Israel retaliate with its own nuclear arsenal? Will the Jordanian and Saudi Arabian governments be toppled by radicals, bolstered by Iran which has much closer ties to terrorism than Iraq?

Could a disruption of the world's oil supply lead to a world-wide recession? Has our senselessly bellicose language and our callous disregard of the interests and opinions of other nations increased the global race to join the nuclear club and made proliferation an even more lucrative practice for nations which need the income?

In only the space of two short years this reckless and arrogant Administration has initiated policies which may reap disastrous consequences for years.

One can understand the anger and shock of any President after the savage attacks of September 11. One can appreciate the frustration of having only a shadow to chase and an amorphous, fleeting enemy on which it is nearly impossible to exact retribution.

But to turn one's frustration and anger into the kind of extremely destabilizing and dangerous foreign policy debacle that the world is currently witnessing is inexcusable from any Administration charged with the awesome power and responsibility of guiding the destiny of the greatest superpower on the planet. Frankly many of the pronouncements made by this Administration are outrageous. There is no other word.

Yet this chamber is hauntingly silent. On what is possibly the eve of horrific infliction of death and destruction on the population of the nation of Iraq -- a population, I might add, of which over 50% is under age 15 -- this chamber is silent. On what is possibly only days before we send thousands of our own citizens to face unimagined horrors of chemical and biological warfare -- this chamber is silent. On the eve of what could possibly be a vicious terrorist attack in retaliation for our attack on Iraq, it is business as usual in the United States Senate.

We are truly "sleepwalking through history." In my heart of hearts I pray that this great nation and its good and trusting citizens are not in for a rudest of awakenings.

To engage in war is always to pick a wild card. And war must always be a last resort, not a first choice. I truly must question the judgment of any President who can say that a massive unprovoked military attack on a nation which is over 50% children is "in the highest moral traditions of our country". This war is not necessary at this time. Pressure appears to be having a good result in Iraq. Our mistake was to put ourselves in a corner so quickly. Our challenge is to now find a graceful way out of a box of our own making. Perhaps there is still a way if we allow more time.


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