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bush Makes Himself Clear

 
 
Reply Wed 3 Jan, 2007 07:26 am
I am in charge and I will get my way or veto everything I don't like without a second thought.

and btw, who in God's name believes that dimwit is capable of thinking of a literate oped piece much less writing one? Laughing

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16445649/
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jan, 2007 07:32 am
This is, as he might put it, part of his overall strategery!
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jan, 2007 07:48 am
Re: bush Makes Himself Clear
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:


and btw, who in God's name believes that dimwit is capable of thinking of a literate oped piece much less writing one?
Apparently The Wall Street Journal does.



"If the Congress chooses to pass bills that are simply political statements, they will have chosen stalemate," Bush wrote. "If a different approach is taken, the next two years can be fruitful ones for our nation. We can show the American people that Republicans and Democrats can come together to find ways to help make America a more secure, prosperous and hopeful society."



I know it will shock, nay, offend you even; but, there is truth to the above statement made by George. Are the two sides planning to continue along their "Screw you" ways of thinking or are they planning to get down to business and actually for the first time in decades...hell, maybe even centuries... do something for the good of the country not just their pockets? Mind you this mentality applies to BOTH sides, not just Democrat or Republican. Both are guilty of it. In recent weeks all I have heard from the Democrats lips has been how they will do this that and the other. Sorry, but I've heard that before and it always ends up being nothing which they end up doing which inevitably brings power back to the other side of the aisle. Again, this applies to both parties.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jan, 2007 07:50 am
If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator.
-- President G. W. Bush
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jan, 2007 08:03 am
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jan, 2007 08:05 am
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jan, 2007 08:11 am
Thanks for repeating yourself.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jan, 2007 08:20 am
Sturgis, you're more than welcome. It bears repeating. Bipartisanship to the Republicans translates OBEY. Bushie is far to much of a criminal to cooperate.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jan, 2007 08:22 am
blueflame1 wrote:
Sturgis, you're more than welcome. It bears repeating. Bipartisanship to the Republicans translates OBEY. Bushie is far to much of a criminal to cooperate.
You need to read what I posted before and also to learn what sarcasm sounds like. It ain't one sided no matter how much you wish to pretend that it is.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jan, 2007 08:24 am
Re: bush Makes Himself Clear
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
I am in charge and I will get my way or veto everything I don't like without a second thought.

and btw, who in God's name believes that dimwit is capable of thinking of a literate oped piece much less writing one? Laughing

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16445649/

It's always easy to criticize someone for something he didn't say, isn't it?
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jan, 2007 08:28 am
Re: bush Makes Himself Clear
Brandon9000 wrote:
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
I am in charge and I will get my way or veto everything I don't like without a second thought.

and btw, who in God's name believes that dimwit is capable of thinking of a literate oped piece much less writing one? Laughing

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16445649/

It's always easy to criticize someone for something he didn't say, isn't it?


ah brandon, that's just what he said in so many words and we all know it.....except for those bush hard core supporters and worshippers like yourself....
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jan, 2007 08:42 am
Re: bush Makes Himself Clear
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
I am in charge and I will get my way or veto everything I don't like without a second thought.

and btw, who in God's name believes that dimwit is capable of thinking of a literate oped piece much less writing one? Laughing

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16445649/

It's always easy to criticize someone for something he didn't say, isn't it?


ah brandon, that's just what he said in so many words and we all know it.....except for those bush hard core supporters and worshippers like yourself....

No, that's simply not what he said, but it is typical of the sort of criticism usually directed at the president. It's not what he said at all, you don't know or have any evidence for what was in his mind when he wrote it, and "everyone knows it" isn't a meaningful argument.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jan, 2007 09:13 am
brandon I'm not interested in debating minute and meaningless points...by all means keep the captain of the debate team golden pocket protector.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jan, 2007 09:23 am
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
brandon I'm not interested in debating minute and meaningless points...by all means keep the captain of the debate team golden pocket protector.

I've made my point. If you don't want to pick it up, I'll just read a few other threads.
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squinney
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jan, 2007 09:33 am
Quote:
"We now have the opportunity to build a bipartisan consensus to fight and win the war," he wrote.


Gotta love it. Bush just admitted that with the Republicans in charge they were partisan and unable to fight and win the war. The opportunity wasn't there until the Dems took over. Laughing
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jan, 2007 09:48 am
Re: bush Makes Himself Clear
Sturgis wrote:
I know it will shock, nay, offend you even; but, there is truth to the above statement made by George. Are the two sides planning to continue along their "Screw you" ways of thinking or are they planning to get down to business and actually for the first time in decades...hell, maybe even centuries... do something for the good of the country not just their pockets? Mind you this mentality applies to BOTH sides, not just Democrat or Republican. Both are guilty of it. In recent weeks all I have heard from the Democrats lips has been how they will do this that and the other. Sorry, but I've heard that before and it always ends up being nothing which they end up doing which inevitably brings power back to the other side of the aisle. Again, this applies to both parties.


This would be hilarious, if it weren't so disgusting. The Shrub--Mr. "I'm a uniter not a divider"--is responsible for the Republican debacle in the midterm elections. If there is a "screw you way of thinking," it can be laid squarely at the door of this administration, and the former Republican-controlled Congress. The Shrub is not calling for compromise and bi-partisan cooperation, he is calling for the Democrats to roll over and play his game the way he wants to play and has done for six years. The Democrats took control of Congress because the majority of those who voted in 2006 don't want to continue the Shrub's policies, and because the Republicans were seen as basically corrupt. Most of the hilarity comes from you talking about Democrats doing something for their pockets, rather than the country. If the country didn't think that Republicans were acting only with regard to their pockets, rather than the good of the country, there'd have been no electoral disaster for the Republicans.

In the quoted MSNBC article, the Shrub is calling for the Democratic Congress to help him "win the war"--despite the undeniable fact that a majority of Americans consider his Iraq policy a failure. He is calling on the Democrats to pass a budget which would make his tax cuts permanent, and to offer tax relief to small businesses--although the latter might be a useful policy, if it were genuine, which i doubt, he has tied that to an increase in the minimum wage. All that the Shrub is doing is attempting to demonize the Democrats in advance of the implementation of their agenda--and they are advancing an agenda the promise of which won them the mid-term elections.

He's not looking for bi-partisan cooperation, he's attempting to get his own way--and he's pouting because he doesn't have a rubber stamp Congress. Even Republican Richard Lugar is quoted as saying that the Shrub is inclined "to not take Congress very seriously" on Iraq policy. If he can't get his own way, he's setting himself up to throw a hissy fit and blame the Congress for the failure of his fantasy policies.

I can't believe you're so naive as to think that there is any reason to trust his good faith--he's attempted since the day one to rule imperially, without regard to the expressed will of the people, in Congress represented. Now he faces a hostile Congress precisely because Americans are fed up with his policies. Get real, Sturgis.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jan, 2007 09:50 am
Who's the Decider anyway?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jan, 2007 09:58 am
Quote:
im·pe·ri·ous /ɪmˈpɪəriəs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[im-peer-ee-uhs] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
-adjective
1. domineering in a haughty manner; dictatorial; overbearing: an imperious manner; an imperious person.


Sounds like you might be a bit jealous Setanta. Is Bush taking lessons from you?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jan, 2007 10:15 am
What tripe you are reduced to these days, McG. Copy-pasting Bush screeds and petty insults.

Here's the long and short of what Bush said:

Quote:
* get ready to take the blame for Iraq and everything else I did
* the mid-term elections were about earmarks, so you should no longer do these (yeah, he really writes this - and he wants a line item veto)
* I'll do my thing on Iraq. You can support me or take the blame for dividing us
* tax cuts are good. Don't even think of touching these. Don't even think of implementing any kind of policy I don't like.


And it's bullsh*t. The Dems should keep on doing business exactly as they have planned. There will be no 'bipartisanship' unless it is on the part of the President doing what congress wants to do; it is the transverse of everything that he has stood for this whole time. Bush hasn't displayed a single ounce of 'bipartisanship' in years, neither have the Congressional Republicans, so screw 'em. He can veto bills all day long if he doesn't like them.

Those who say this will be deletorious to the country are the same fools who support the Iraq war and tax cuts for the rich, so there's absolutely no reason to listen to them at all.

Cycloptichorn
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jan, 2007 10:27 am
And the Shrub is calling on the Democrats to continue his policy to "fight and win" in Iraq, and to make the tax cuts permanent. There's no call for bi-partisan cooperation here. I was greatly amused, though, when the Shrub spoke of a budget--maybe someone should get him a copy of the constitution, and point out that all money bills originate in the House of Representatives, not the White House.

Article I, Section 7, first paragraph:

All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.
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